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Re: Ketos Foilers - What boards are you riding

Postby Peter_Frank » Wed Mar 18, 2020 2:46 pm

Janus wrote:
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S2 with 100cm mast on my setup, what will the XS2 change?

My experiences with stabs (having had a load of different sizes, from 170 to past 300 cm2, is:

The bigger the wing, the smaller the stab I prefer, for waves and fun, as much more lively, in particular in turns.

For the WaveXL the difference is not as huge, as with the 1200 wing, but of course can be felt.

A tad bigger stab gives a more smooth driving feel, also nice, and if you want to jump (I dont do that much) it also feels a lot better for some reason, it can track and you can load.


Using a 175 cm2 (very close to the XS2) right now with the 1200 wing, always.

And typically a 233 cm2 stab with the waveXL wing, works just fine.

All my bigger stabs has been cut down now, or sold, these sizes works for me.

I would say an S2 stab which is 245 cm2 works great as an allround, but you could get a smaller if you want it even more lively, or cut it down if you are good with tools and eyes and maybe resin for shaping the profile "almost perfect" again.

Supersmall stabs, I must say I dont believe in, meaning 100 cm2 or something, too close to a stabless, which I personally dont believe in - but some do, so individual.

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Re: Ketos Foilers - What boards are you riding

Postby revhed » Wed Mar 18, 2020 9:05 pm

Sure like my D I Y 125 x 50 x 4.
Wave XL with xs stab and 90 cm race profile STRUT!
Best foil I ever flew, but then again it is mine.
I will say as much as I enjoyed building MANY Complete K B H Fs which flew well, I can not compete with Ketos. :allbegood:
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Re: Ketos Foilers - What boards are you riding

Postby Huib » Thu Mar 19, 2020 9:55 am

Frankieboy wrote:
Tue Mar 17, 2020 11:30 pm
get an XS2 stab guys ! It is a game changer
Ketos gives a warning that this wing can induce whistling noise. Did you notice this?
Is this wing a big difference with the Carver/1200cm2 wing?

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Re: Ketos Foilers - What boards are you riding

Postby Peter_Frank » Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:52 am

The Karver stab is 280 cm2, relatively big IMO but easy, the XS2 is 180 cm2.

Other difference is the XS2 is almost flat.

Meaning, XS2 will feel very lively, almost skatey when riding with the 1200 wing, can twist/yaw sideways.

Whereas the Karver, as I wrote, will give you the smooth feel we know from surfing, and not as loose sideways.

Depends on what one/you prefer, but I can say for sure there will be a big difference between these two stabs.

I like both "feels" so to speak, difficult to explain, but have to choose on a given day (or front wing).

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Re: Ketos Foilers - What boards are you riding

Postby Regis-de-giens » Thu Mar 19, 2020 11:03 am

I love my 142 skim board (Kakoo shape , skim 2 cm thick)... really but few experiences on smaller board ...

but ready at your experiences, I really have to think about a 118 or 107 (if I keep my 142 for light winds) .... I guess you will push me to this change , right ? :jump:

PS: I do not like volume on foilboards
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Re: Ketos Foilers - What boards are you riding

Postby Huib » Thu Mar 19, 2020 11:03 am

@ Peter. According the website of Ketos the XS2 is 233cm2
Do you know anything about the whistling noise? I hate that!

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Re: Ketos Foilers - What boards are you riding

Postby Peter_Frank » Thu Mar 19, 2020 11:28 am

Huib wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 11:03 am
@ Peter. According the website of Ketos the XS2 is 233cm2
Do you know anything about the whistling noise? I hate that!

I dont see that, 233 cm2...

Its reference is KR 320-180 meaning 320 mm span 180 cm2 area.
If you click on "Details! here you can see the same: https://ketos-foil.com/fr/stabilos/122- ... -foil.html

No idea about if it whistles or not, hate that too myself, and can take forever till you have figured out why, sanding and stuff.

EDIT: Oh, I can see now, on the English page the reference is correct, but the numbers underneath is from the older "S" stab, I will write and have them correct this :thumb:

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Re: Ketos Foilers - What boards are you riding

Postby Janus » Thu Mar 19, 2020 12:20 pm

Huib wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 11:03 am
@ Peter. According the website of Ketos the XS2 is 233cm2
Do you know anything about the whistling noise? I hate that!
Hate that too so I choosed the S2 stab instead of the XS2.

My first ride last tuesday was in complete silence in all directions, smooth ride, could twist a bit sideways but not skatie loose.
Muscle memmory and weight balance needed a reset .. :lol:

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Re: Ketos Foilers - What boards are you riding

Postby Regis-de-giens » Thu Mar 19, 2020 12:44 pm

I use the very little stab G10 ... very agile (limit unstable) and cheap, but really nice with the 1200 and the freeride / light wind wind wing ;
too instable with the litte Wave wing from Ketos (at least for my need)

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Re: Ketos Foilers - What boards are you riding

Postby Frankieboy » Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:58 pm

Huib wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 9:55 am
Frankieboy wrote:
Tue Mar 17, 2020 11:30 pm
get an XS2 stab guys ! It is a game changer
Ketos gives a warning that this wing can induce whistling noise. Did you notice this?
Is this wing a big difference with the Carver/1200cm2 wing?
to me the smaller stab give more life to the wing: more speed and more reactivity. More nervosity
the bigger stab makes it more stable

I did have some noise in the past but is was not coming from the stab...


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