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Re: Next steps, whats the best progression?

Postby DukeSilver » Thu Feb 20, 2020 1:21 pm

If you don't crash and burn, you never learn. For me the biggest hurdle is deciding to try a new move. Once the decision is made, the move actually comes relatively quickly. 360s and tacks to toe side were starting to be occasionally completed after a day or 2 of the initial attempt. Foot swaps on the foil took a little longer - especially toe to heel side swaps. Maybe a couple of weeks for the latter.

Lots of video watching and forum reading helped me learn these moves in my head before I even attempted them on the water. Keep a positive attitude and back your ability to do what you see others doing. I've been foiling for about 3 years and I've only started trying full tacks with foot swaps. This is by far the move I have found the hardest. I've had maybe 70 to 100 attempts and I've come very close on maybe 3 or 4 of them. When I try a new transition, I do very short runs before attempting the move. 30m to 50m at the most. This way I'm assured of many more attempts per session.

I have friends who have a similar amount of foiling experience who have barely become comfortable gybing to toe side and can't swap feet on the foil yet. Because they haven't even tried. They do long runs, practicing what they are already comfortable with, but avoid the ego bruising that learning anything new brings.

BTW, your list looks like a good and logical progression in your foiling journey.

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Re: Next steps, whats the best progression?

Postby wheat » Thu Feb 20, 2020 9:54 pm

Awesome topic and comments. Thanks.
I like the list and progression.
If you want to break down the list farther, have a strong and weak foot subsection for each step.
Adding a surfboard practice step before the foiling step can avoid falls and work on footwork.

Examples:
Toeside dominant foot, then toeside weak foot.
Toeside downwind -> toeside perpendicular to wind -> Toeside upwind overpowered on weak side.
gybe, gybe with downloop, gybe downloop hard and carve hard, Do "figure eights" with gybes every 10 yards

My goals for this season: Foot Switch, 360, tack, so I have a lot to learn. I appreciate all the experts sharing the passion.

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Re: Next steps, whats the best progression?

Postby grigorib » Thu Feb 20, 2020 10:04 pm

A list I would advise would be:

Riding each direction
Riding downwind
Riding S turns downwind
Riding toeside (here come endless sessions and chances of forgetting how to ride weak side so foot switches drop from the list to way later phase too)
Strapless
Looping/downlooping while riding
360
Heelside tack
Toeeside tack
Sitting on side/standing
Sitting face forward/standing
…keep going

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Re: Next steps, whats the best progression?

Postby bragnouff » Thu Feb 20, 2020 10:51 pm

Most things on that list are functional steps that will help develop your skills, but sitting on your board is none of that and completely optional in a progression list, so can be left out in case you think it looks super naff.

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Re: Next steps, whats the best progression?

Postby windmaker » Fri Feb 21, 2020 6:34 am

bragnouff wrote:
Thu Feb 20, 2020 10:51 pm
Most things on that list are functional steps that will help develop your skills, but sitting on your board is none of that and completely optional in a progression list, so can be left out in case you think it looks super naff.
Agreed, sitting on the board should not be on a progression list or maybe right at the beginning as they are so easy and don't require any particular skills.

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Re: Next steps, whats the best progression?

Postby jumptheshark » Fri Feb 21, 2020 11:19 am

And it looks super naff.


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