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Which Gong foil for begginer

Postby arjas » Thu Apr 09, 2020 1:02 pm

Hi,

Decided to try kitefoiling. Mainly for light wind. Different spots - from flat to onshore waves in sea.
Looking for recomendations but from what i already found in forum , Gong is best price/performance option.
Bit confused which wing to choose . Some recomends Gong M surf foil 1258cm2 . Is it suitable for beginner? https://www.gong-galaxy.com/en/product/ ... or-65-m-4/
But also found good opinions about Front Wing M PRO 985cm2. Is it this one? https://www.gong-galaxy.com/en/product/ ... -freewave/ ?
Maybe Pro wing is more future proof option?

My experience 15 years of windsurf , but last 3 years i spent 90% of my TOW kitesurfing. Last year I learned windsurf foil on my son race gear (20 hours) , no air jibes yet , but can go straight line without crashing.
My weight is 77kg .

Thanks in advance.
Arjas

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Re: Which Gong foil for begginer

Postby PD Gorby 67 » Thu Apr 09, 2020 5:49 pm

I would suggest to you the Gong Kitefoil Allvator Freewave.
This one has the 90cm mast (strut), and the Pro M Front Wing.
I just got the Pro L Front wing and I find that it is plenty fast and still lifts me quite early. I am 110 kgs.
So, the Pro M wing should lift your 77kgs quite easily.
If you are just starting out with kite foiling, then I would also consider getting the 65cm long mast (strut) to go with it. For an extra 59 Euros, it is a pretty cheap way to make the learning curve easier.
Hope this helps.
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Re: Which Gong foil for begginer

Postby Zamed » Fri Apr 10, 2020 11:56 am

I would suggest the same.
I had the M classic and now I'm on the pro M.
In any case you won't be disappointed, since both good but slightly different.
In my opinion' the "pro" name is misleading... It's a great freeride set for all levels.
I find the pro M more balanced in terms of lift and stability and therefor I vote for it.
The smaller wing is also less technical in waterstart, which is important in the first steps.

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Re: Which Gong foil for begginer

Postby PD Gorby 67 » Fri Apr 10, 2020 5:46 pm

The Pro Gong wings were developed for their Surf / SUP Foil lineup.
So, from that perspective, it makes sense, since they are more technical to ride when you are surfing with them.
For kiting, they are very user friendly, so the Pro designation could put someone off, if they don't know where the name came from.
When I am looking at wings, I consider the shape of the wing, and the dimensions as much as what the company chooses to call them.

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Re: Which Gong foil for begginer

Postby Flyboy » Fri Apr 10, 2020 6:14 pm

I agree with all the comments so far. The "pro" designation doesn't really mean that much. The MPro is a great size for learning & progressing on - planes up early, is stable & has decent top speed. I would also suggest getting the 65 cm, as well as the 80 cm & 90 cm masts. They are very inexpensive to buy, but relatively expensive to ship later separately (especially if you are outside Europe).

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Re: Which Gong foil for begginer

Postby jyka » Fri Apr 10, 2020 6:31 pm

I have been hydrofoiling for three years now and still super happy with gong M size classic surf foil (I started with a faster foil). It's fast enough for me.
It goes 25-30 km/h:


Haven't tried pro wing yet but I bet both are good enough for a long time.
If I was you I would choose M or L size Pro surf wing. Depends on how fast you want to go :)

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Re: Which Gong foil for begginer

Postby xoen » Fri Apr 10, 2020 6:36 pm

So I am thinking of buying either the M classic or the pro M...Being a beginner, which one would u recommend? What are the performance differences?

thanks,

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Re: Which Gong foil for begginer

Postby Flyboy » Fri Apr 10, 2020 6:43 pm

xoen wrote:
Fri Apr 10, 2020 6:36 pm
So I am thinking of buying either the M classic or the pro M...Being a beginner, which one would u recommend? What are the performance differences?

thanks,

Xoen
I don't think t really matters - either will serve you well. The Pro is smaller & thinner & should be faster because of that. I tend to think that the ProM size - around 1000 sq cm - is an ideal size for learning. It creates plenty of lift at a relatively slow speed but doesn't provide too much lift to control, which tends to be a problem when you're starting out.

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Re: Which Gong foil for begginer

Postby PD Gorby 67 » Fri Apr 10, 2020 7:36 pm

xoen wrote:
Fri Apr 10, 2020 6:36 pm
So I am thinking of buying either the M classic or the pro M...Being a beginner, which one would u recommend? What are the performance differences?

thanks,

Xoen
It depends on how much you weigh. The wings are very similar, just slightly different in size.
I wanted the Pro Large, because I am 110 kgs. If I was below 80 kgs, I think that the Pro Medium would be big enough for me for kiting.

How much do you weigh, Xoen?

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Re: Which Gong foil for begginer

Postby Flyboy » Fri Apr 10, 2020 7:48 pm

The Classic surf M is significantly larger than the MPro:

The Front Wing M Classic is 70cm with a volume of 2.0L. Its projected area is 1257cm2 and 1458cm2 in developed. Great to start, top to pump and amazing to ride!

The Front Wing M PRO is 69cm with a volume of 1.2L. Its profile is much thinner than the Classic to get a crazy speed and optimum penetration. Its projected area is 985cm2 and 1092cm2 developed.


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