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Re: Trying to pick the right quiver for foiling

Postby Zamed » Fri Apr 10, 2020 12:26 pm

lizards wrote:
Thu Apr 09, 2020 9:52 pm

The cheapest single strut is the solo but the closest size to what I’m looking for is the 12 and I feel like I could very likely become too quickly overpowered with that size.
If you look for a cheap joyful single strut, I suggest you give a look at the Gong Unik.
Also, on the Gong online shop there are several used 9m 2019 kites , which might be best value by far.

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Re: Trying to pick the right quiver for foiling

Postby vakiter » Fri Apr 10, 2020 12:50 pm

i learned on a switchblade too and realized it was way too heavy/slow. i use OR flites for foiling (12m is my biggest), which are comparable in weight to single struts i believe. line extensions help in low wind days too because you get a bigger power stroke to enable you to get on foil.
for light wind relaunch i have to use opposite front line technique, (if its enough wind for that).

only single strut i ever flew was a solo v1. hated it.

i also ride LF impulse as light wind foil, and weigh 70kg/155lbs.
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Re: Trying to pick the right quiver for foiling

Postby Windigo1 » Fri Apr 10, 2020 12:54 pm

For me in those wind my go to kite is a 12m Airush Ultra I have been using it for a few years now it was the only really good option back then. There are more options now the Ozone Alpha looks great. I'm 80KG at you weight you may be able to use a 10M in that kind of wind. A single strut will make huge difference. The Allula Ocean Rodeo Roam might be good too. I only tested it on the snow it's amazing it's stays in the air in almost no wind but I haven't tested in on a foil yet!

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Re: Trying to pick the right quiver for foiling

Postby vakiter » Fri Apr 10, 2020 4:11 pm

not to start a kite weight debate thread, but airush ultra and flites are similar in weight. from their websites current models are
flite 12m - 2.95kg,
ultra 12m - 2.83kg

original SS rallys (not sure about gt) are also really light for 3struts (but they are slow and pull hard on the hook imo)
windance has few used flites fyi .

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Re: Trying to pick the right quiver for foiling

Postby wheat » Sat Apr 11, 2020 5:56 am

If you are on a budget, a strutless or one-strut gong is a great option.
I am 85kg/190 lbs on a Moses 633 with a 12m strutless Gong. It gets me going in the light wind and did well compared to higher $$$ options in La Ventana.
Your liquid force impulse is an awesome wing which should get you going in light wind. At your lighter weight, I would be looking at a 9-10m 1 or no strut gong. When the wind pics up a bit, the 12 is a handful. If your winds are super steady costal or thermals, you might be all right on either size. Wallydog's sounds great. I have not met him or seen his kite. I bought a similar deal last summer.

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Re: Trying to pick the right quiver for foiling

Postby drsurf » Sat Apr 11, 2020 1:31 pm

Hi Zamed.
I know you mentioned that you are not thinking about foil kites. However I would urge you to have a try of a Peak4 5m or 8m kite. The 5m Peak4 is roughly equivalent to a 7-9m LEI kite and the 8m Peak4 is equivalent to a 12m LEI kite and the weights are .88kg and 1.16kg respectively.
Although the Peak4 is not necessarily relaunchable every crash, it is extremely easy to fly, feeling much the same as an LEI kite. It's light weight makes it easy to keep in the air and it doesn't tend to fall from the sky with slack lines. The Peak4 instant depower gives a beginner foiler a lot more confidence and makes crashes much less common. The bridle lines are much simpler than other foil kites and they are very quick to set up and take down.

A Peak4 can make learning much easier, and when I have given a learning foiler a demo of a Peak4 kite they have been very impressed and often bought the kite. I wouldn't recommend the Peak4 if you are still learning to get up on the foil, but if you can foil regularly for 100m or more I believe a Peak4 kite will make your progression faster and easier. They are also approx. half the price of an inflatable kite and work on any standard 4 line bar :D
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Re: Trying to pick the right quiver for foiling

Postby 1234567Simon » Sat Apr 11, 2020 6:36 pm

Actually you are in an easy position: you have one of the most heavy kites with the strongest pull (switchblade).

So just get any cheap one strut kite (Designed for hydrofoiling) in something like 9m (maby 10m).

Boxer, Solo, Kauper XT.... what ever....
You will see, if they are better for you. (Faster Turning. Better looping, staying in the Air with less than 8 knotes, more playfull.... what ever)


Imho 12 will be too big for 65kg with Impulse Foil.

Just my 5O Cents.

Btw. I will have the same issue. Only that I have got 9m Wave and 12m three strut freeride.

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Re: Trying to pick the right quiver for foiling

Postby Si_B » Sat Apr 11, 2020 8:25 pm

I learnt using Slingshot Rally’s which pull like your Switchblade. Tried a mates Ozone Alpha and it was night and day difference. So much easier on a foil (but didn’t find them brilliant on a twin tip).

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Re: Trying to pick the right quiver for foiling

Postby mar menor » Sat Apr 11, 2020 8:49 pm

+1 for Ozone Alpha,great for foiling ,good on surfboard but not a TT kite.

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Re: Trying to pick the right quiver for foiling

Postby mar menor » Sat Apr 11, 2020 8:51 pm

BUT sub 10 kts get a foil kite....


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