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dave1986
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Postby dave1986 » Sat Aug 15, 2020 10:07 pm
DAnderson wrote: ↑Sat Aug 15, 2020 2:52 pm
Yes lost. Did dive after it w/ gear w/in a few hours but unable to locate it due to weekend boat traffic making the search too risky.
I am ~180#, but the rider when this happened is ~220#.
I had ridden it for a dozen sessions on the 91cm & this was the first time attached to the 101.
Unfortunate, as it quickly became my favorite Moses wing to date.
Almost as slow as the 633, easily faster, & more adept to pump/carve.
I only rode it w/ the 420.
Thanks DAnderson.
Can I ask what position you mounted the mast with the W800 compared with the W633? With my W633 I have the mast mounted about 1 inch (2.5cm) from the back of the tracks on my Groove Skate 130. I'm guessing that the W800 should have the mast mounted a little further forward?
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Postby max » Sat Aug 15, 2020 11:29 pm
dave1986 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 15, 2020 10:07 pm
Thanks DAnderson.
Can I ask what position you mounted the mast with the W800 compared with the W633? With my W633 I have the mast mounted about 1 inch (2.5cm) from the back of the tracks on my Groove Skate 130. I'm guessing that the W800 should have the mast mounted a little further forward?
The 800 mounts on a different fuse where the wing is closer to the mast so maybe it will end up being similar position . . . or I could be completely wrong.
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Postby dave1986 » Sat Aug 15, 2020 11:48 pm
max wrote: ↑Sat Aug 15, 2020 11:29 pm
dave1986 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 15, 2020 10:07 pm
Thanks DAnderson.
Can I ask what position you mounted the mast with the W800 compared with the W633? With my W633 I have the mast mounted about 1 inch (2.5cm) from the back of the tracks on my Groove Skate 130. I'm guessing that the W800 should have the mast mounted a little further forward?
The 800 mounts on a different fuse where the wing is closer to the mast so maybe it will end up being similar position . . . or I could be completely wrong.
I forgot about the W800 being mounted on a different fuselage. I'd be interested to know whether this affects the mast mounting position.
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Postby Foil » Sun Aug 16, 2020 2:18 am
still unsure which generation of moses mast that was,
the first being the one with the one piece mast and fuse which It clearly is not
the second generation one piece mast that had the small "banana " curve look about it? maybe 2014-17
the 3rd generation straight more common mast 2017-2020
the latest woodcore straight mast, clearly not that one.
can you post a side picture of the bit that's left as it looks from the curved broad white mast logo sticker that its maybe the "banana look"second generation, which came in 93 cm but i never did see a 101 or longer, maybe the early foilers know the sizes that were available back then.
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dave1986
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Postby dave1986 » Sun Aug 16, 2020 8:25 am
Foil wrote: ↑Sun Aug 16, 2020 2:18 am
still unsure which generation of moses mast that was,
the first being the one with the one piece mast and fuse which It clearly is not
the second generation one piece mast that had the small "banana " curve look about it? maybe 2014-17
the 3rd generation straight more common mast 2017-2020
the latest woodcore straight mast, clearly not that one.
can you post a side picture of the bit that's left as it looks from the curved broad white mast logo sticker that its maybe the "banana look"second generation, which came in 93 cm but i never did see a 101 or longer, maybe the early foilers know the sizes that were available back then.
Based on the photos it looks like the 2017 Vorace 101 mast. It looks like it snapped about 2/3rds of the way along it's length between the letter C and E of the Vorace print.
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Postby Foil » Sun Aug 16, 2020 10:57 am
Phew!
Not mine then,
mine must be the 101 from 2018 to 2020.
Not jumping is simply not an option I want to think about
mi
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Postby max » Sun Aug 16, 2020 1:08 pm
Foil wrote: ↑Sun Aug 16, 2020 10:57 am
Phew!
Not mine then,
mine must be the 101 from 2018 to 2020.
Not jumping is simply not an option I want to think about
Is that the 720 wing?
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Postby grigorib » Sun Aug 16, 2020 3:35 pm
max wrote: ↑Sun Aug 16, 2020 1:08 pm
Foil wrote: ↑Sun Aug 16, 2020 10:57 am
Phew!
Not mine then,
mine must be the 101 from 2018 to 2020.
Not jumping is simply not an option I want to think about
Is that the 720 wing?
Yes.
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Postby DAnderson » Tue Aug 18, 2020 3:01 pm
dave1986 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 15, 2020 11:48 pm
I forgot about the W800 being mounted on a different fuselage. I'd be interested to know whether this affects the mast mounting position.
I had the mast mounted in the forward (kite fuselage) position, I forgot actually, but the pic posted previously shows this.
I agree it was likely a 2017 era mast
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Postby grigorib » Tue Aug 18, 2020 5:30 pm
DAnderson wrote: ↑Tue Aug 18, 2020 3:01 pm
dave1986 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 15, 2020 11:48 pm
I forgot about the W800 being mounted on a different fuselage. I'd be interested to know whether this affects the mast mounting position.
I had the mast mounted in the forward (kite fuselage) position, I forgot actually, but the pic posted previously shows this.
I agree it was likely a 2017 era mast
I expect the mast to be at same position as 695 - which is 2” forward compared to surf fuselage setups.
You can bring the mast further forward/backward by 1” by shimming the stabilizer if you’re out of track
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