Flyboy wrote: ↑
Sun Jun 14, 2020 2:43 pm
azoele wrote: ↑
Sun Jun 14, 2020 8:46 am
Flyboy wrote: ↑
Sun Jun 14, 2020 6:13 am
I'm not 110 kg, so I can't comment on what size wing you would need ... but I will say that as you start getting into really light wind, the limiting factor may be the kite rather than the wing. At 80 kg I feel a 1000 sq cm wing is all I need to get going - I can start if there is enough wind to reliably fly my tube kite (ie around 9 - 10 knots). Less than that I would need a more efficient light wind kite regardless of the wing size. I'm guessing that at at 110 kg you would need a 1200 - 1500 sq cm wing as the equivalent to my 1000. I think that larger than that is going to produce decreasing benefits.
Thanks, perhaps given similar conditions you'd be just right.
But I'm probably pushing the envelope a bit more (or mosre than I should...).
I have troubles at 5/6 knots: the kite will stay up easily, but such a light wind, combined with my admittedly limited abilities, I find extremely challenging... already 7 knots is much ore forgiving with the Peak 13m.
Hence the hope that a huge wing might keep me foiling enough to get another impulse from the kite in the limit situation.
Just speculation on my side, obviously, which needs a bit of input before buying the wing: I've spent so much on this sport in a year I have dreams of my banker calling me at night!!!
Yes - you're talking about pushing the envelope to its limit. For that you need a big, very efficient kite & a big wing will help. Your weight is obviously also going to be a factor in those winds. I certainly see racers foiling in very light winds without big wings. They use very large, high aspect race kites, floaty boards ... & a lot of finesse. From what I understand large P4s are not the best light wind machines ... so you might have to spend more money on a dedicated light wind kite!
Finesse, I honestly have little.
Began kitesurfing a year and a half ago at max, so am still honing my abilities to have the kite fly: there's still a lot to learn, I'm sure of that.
As to the Peak 4: I own a Ultra 17m, a very nice kite in itself.
I bought the Peaks because was astounded at what the Peak 13m of a friend (he himself 100Kg or so) could do.
Tried his kite, incredibly low wind, my 633, two downloops and there I was foiling.
It was so amazing – especially not
having to mind the kite, and not being afraid of it going to the edge of the wind window and fall down, that I was sold immediately.
I am using the Peak with a small bar (Flysurfer Connect bar), which I'm sure is simply too little for that beast (on the Ultra I use a 62cm bar, and find much improvement).
Perhaps switching to a 62 bar with longer lines (i.e. 27 instead of the current 21) might help extract still some more from the kite?
I honestly don't wish to return to other (perhaps a tad more efficient, but certainly more) fatiguing kites needing lots of attention in low wind.
The Peak doesn't fall down: had some nice crashes with it, it just floats there like a happy bag