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Pocket board for 82 cm mast and big wing.

Postby tomtom » Sun Jun 21, 2020 2:56 pm

Hi guys,

Making new board - real pocket this time. My current one is 140 cm no volume as this was pocket size while ago.
Im thinking about going full pocket size 90x? or normal pocket size 100-110x?
I will use this with real pumpable setup moses 790 or even bigger wing and peaks.

My current board is very light in 2 kg category so i dont think that traditional swing weight issue is issue for me. Im thinking about either full normal baggage 90x? size or traditional pocket 110x? for which i have to pay sport luggage fee.
My current board is perfect cause is big enough for light wind and light and small enough for not be a issue.
Anyway i need second board couse my wife and son start foiling and i need second board. I was quick trying some very small board like less than 90x37 cm and while it was different it wasnt an issue to ride it.. But i did not see much benefits or added responsibility. But it was very short try like 5 min...

So what are your current option about board size - and board width in relation with shorter mast and clearance above water. Also feet switch difficulties relationship - if they are any.
Im big guy 200cm with wide stance and big US 15 feet.
Also is there some consensus on deck shape /flat concave, convex/. I have surf skate with special 3d feet pocket and it hold my feet MUCH better than conventional decks but i think it will hinder feet switches.

My current idea is 106x40.

What is you current favourite strapless pocket size - and please state your stance style /wide - narrow/ and mast lenght

Many thanks!!!

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Re: Pocket board for 82 cm mast and big wing.

Postby cornbread » Mon Jun 22, 2020 12:26 am

Riding a Nang 100cm by Carbonco; Narrow stance; 85cm mast by Armie; strapless. Had a Kahana 94cm board but the Armie inserts were not compatible.

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Re: Pocket board for 82 cm mast and big wing.

Postby teftelja » Mon Jun 22, 2020 4:57 am

Hi tomtom.
I'm 195 cm height and my foot size is 13.5 US, ride with wide stance.
My current selfmade boards are 123*43, 109*43, 95*41. Each one is a hair less than 2 kg.
I ride only 109 and 95 as I don't find 123 as playfull as smaller ones. For riding waves 95 is optimal (want to build 89*39 - minimum for my stance). When the wind is Light and there is no waves 109 is my go to board. It is less agile but only a bit, it also starts 1 knot earlier.
Mast is 90 cm, wings are 780 and 1200 cm*2.
90% of all sessions are on 95*41.
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Re: Pocket board for 82 cm mast and big wing.

Postby tomtom » Mon Jun 22, 2020 9:23 am

Many thanks for opinion guys! Any other opinion? - especially about width. Do board really need to be in 45 cm category like Kanaha? Why they are not almost any 35-38 boards. It should give you more freedom to carve while riding low on shorter mast. And with surf wings - direct to foil start - lower plane area should not matter. You need some edge length though, just for resistance while starting. My style is smallest possible kite - so i must be able to start somehow :)
On which size you start feel that direct to foil start is more problematic - because less resistance from board while sending kite?

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Re: Pocket board for 82 cm mast and big wing.

Postby teftelja » Mon Jun 22, 2020 10:28 am

Using surf wing 1200 cm*2 I can start on 95 cm board as early as on the bigger one. Narrow board is an advatage for carving too. I would say that with a surf wing 90*38 board gives you more pros that cons unless you weigh not more than 100kg.
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Re: Pocket board for 82 cm mast and big wing.

Postby teftelja » Mon Jun 22, 2020 10:31 am

Switching feet does not depend on the size

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Re: Pocket board for 82 cm mast and big wing.

Postby Kamikuza » Mon Jun 22, 2020 10:46 am

Re. width.

The boards I like the best are widest *behind* the front foot, as extra width in front just drags into the water when playing around close to the water with a short mast.

I reckon my Dwarfcraft 3'6" could be two inches narrower (40cm?) at the front foot without giving up ease of use ... but I don't know if that would impact negatively on its low end ie. volume and area. My Axis Surf is like 127x45 and pretty much shaped like a surfboard. Outline is excellent (though I want more width at the back) and it bounces off the water rather than digging in when the edges touch ...

The important thing though is the "surfboard" outline, as opposed to the "tombstone" shape many boards are.

That's my 2 cents.

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Re: Pocket board for 82 cm mast and big wing.

Postby junebug » Mon Jun 22, 2020 12:50 pm

I’m 6’3” 195 lbs 12.5 shoe size with very narrow stance. My stance used to be wide, but it got narrower when I went to a shorter board.

My home build is 84 x 39 cm. I have a Slingshot Micro for light wind days, but I ride my home build from 13kn+.

I can’t comment on how wide a board should be for short mast use, but I would think with those big boats you call feet you would want to go at least 42 cm wide to give yourself a little margin for error on foot switches.

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Re: Pocket board for 82 cm mast and big wing.

Postby tomtom » Mon Jun 22, 2020 3:08 pm

Many thanks for all opinions. I laugh about little boats, friend once make uncorrect joke about my shoes. Call them kids coffin. Anyway i can switch feet on my surfskate which is about 30cm wide... but its not same beast. I was thinking about 93x38, but now im not sure about width. I suppose i will make some template and try dry feet switches just to have clue... im just 85 kg naked so weight isnt issue, just stance and feet size.

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Re: Pocket board for 82 cm mast and big wing.

Postby Kamikuza » Mon Jun 22, 2020 3:38 pm

My feet are US13 too, and even in three-strap mode, I could lose an inch from each side and still have space...

Aren't race boards like 40 cm wide? Couldn't you borrow one of them for a quick blast and demo?


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