I'd convinced myself that I needed front straps or I could never water start without them. Then one day I ripped the front strap mid-session and ... never looked back.jakemoore wrote: ↑Tue Aug 25, 2020 4:37 amIts totally doable. I did a font foot hook for one or two sessions early on mostly to hold the board in position for water start. Then the hook ripped the inserts out of my board. After I repaired it, I never went back.
A thin board like a Crazy Fly chill deck is a lot easier to learn strapless water start as is a foil that floats or sinks slowly. The issue is keeping the foil on its side while you get situated before diving the kite.
Once you are riding on the surface the strap doesn't add much and for first flights I think its much better to be able to escape the board in the big crashes that are soon to come.
that hand strap seems like it would have been super useful... wish I'd thought of that when I was startingSlappysan wrote: ↑Thu Aug 27, 2020 8:33 pmI learned to foil strapless, but one thing I did was attach a custom grab strap in the spot between the two foot positions and it made life so much easier. It's all about holding the board in place while you get started.
These days I use a single rear foot hook and I think it's by far the way to go. Basically all I use it for is holding the board in place when preparing to start and after that my foot is moved up away from the hook so I'm essentially riding strapless.
If you opt for a single front hook it's always going to be there in the way of your feet while you are foiling, unless you can position it far enough forward that it can be out of the way but I doubt you'll find boards with that kind of strap mount options. With the rear it's easy to put it on the max back rear mount and it'll be 100% out of the way once you are riding.
At 3:32 you can see how I get going with a single rear hook.
bkkite wrote: ↑Thu Aug 27, 2020 11:45 pmI learned to ride strapless, and I really disliked the strap. I also used a board that didn't have much volume (so the board sinks a bit and makes strapless starts a bit more challenging), and I'd say it took me about 5 sessions to get up and riding both directions comfortably with some control
One thing that really confused me is that if you have straps, they need to be in to be in the right spot on the board for the foil ( I think they say the board and foil need to be tuned together?). But since I'm riding a Frankenstein, the straps were definitely in the wrong spot, so I had a real difficult time keeping the foil down. I pulled the straps off, and all of a sudden things started working! I used a half strap one session, and that was better than the straps, but I still preferred strapless.
Hope that helps someone else avoid the pain. TLDR, if you ride straps, do it with a board and foil that were designed to go together or with rails so you can adjust them.
I'm perplexed as this is not the first time I have seen someone saying this, but I start foiling the same way I start with a strapless surfboard. I believe someone said in this thread that they do the same. I use the Slingshot Hover Glide system with the Space Skate which does not float. I never tilt my board up and quickly time a dive before it sinks. I can take as much time as I want lazily on my back with my feet resting on the board.
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