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Going from Short Mast to Long Mast

Postby Big Wally » Sat Aug 29, 2020 9:26 pm

Been riding short mast all over. Tried Long mast and I am stumped.

Any basic tips/Advice to get UP on Long mast? Not concerned about riding once up. It’s the START to get going along on top of water??

Thanks in advance!

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Re: Going from Short Mast to Long Mast

Postby Peter_Frank » Sat Aug 29, 2020 11:54 pm

Not sure I understand why you find any difference?

I don't, same way to start short 80 cm or long 100 cm mast.

Maybe others have tried super short masts and knows?

Could you elaborate a bit further what you find difficult?
To get the board on its side? Holding it?
To get up foiling from taxi'ing on the surface?

Strapless or straps?

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Re: Going from Short Mast to Long Mast

Postby Big Wally » Sat Aug 29, 2020 11:58 pm

When I dive the Kite and get on top of the board I don’t go very far. It’s like I have no power and can’t get any speed to Taxi. Does that make sense??

My short Mast is a 24 in mast.

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Re: Going from Short Mast to Long Mast

Postby Kiter_from_Germany » Sun Aug 30, 2020 10:07 am

interestingly I'm exactly in that phase from 60cm to 90cm mast.
the foil is more nervous, and has to be controlled a little more filigran.

The behavior you discribe I can't find.

Perhaps yr stab is mounted upside down or lost shimming plate(s) when remounting the foil?

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Re: Going from Short Mast to Long Mast

Postby Mossy 757 » Sun Aug 30, 2020 5:05 pm

Engage the foot/leg over the foil when you dive the kite and use your forward leg to point the nose in a direction where the kite and foil want to go (meaning don't stuff it upwind too hard and plow away all your kite power).

You basically want to start moving forward from the power stroke at about 60-80* to the wind (where upwind is 0*). At the same time, engage the foil and begin loading up your wings by pushing down and locking that rear leg into a strong, stable base. Then wiggle the nose to get the board to start moving so that it's not so far downwind you stall the kite and slack your lines, but not so far upwind that you fail to accelerate.


But again...engage your rear leg over the foil. With enough practice you'll get your power spike in the right place to ride away from a waterstart on foil instead of all that kooky porpoising garbage.

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Re: Going from Short Mast to Long Mast

Postby Big Wally » Sun Aug 30, 2020 5:23 pm

Excellent tip!! Need to work on that. Have a picture of it I think.

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Re: Going from Short Mast to Long Mast

Postby TomW » Sun Aug 30, 2020 8:54 pm

Mossy is right. beginners make that mistake of trying to start going too much upwind. Start 45 degrees down wind and get going then go more upwind after you are flying.

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Re: Going from Short Mast to Long Mast

Postby Hugh2 » Sun Aug 30, 2020 9:00 pm

It's a little hard to understand your problem. If you can waterstart, get up on the board, ride on the surface, then up onto foil on a 24 inch mast, you should find only a little more instability at the final foiling stage when on a 36 inch mast. The first three stages should be essentially the same??


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