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grtlakes
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Small lei

Postby grtlakes » Sun Aug 30, 2020 4:46 am

Gentlemen,

I am looking for a recommendation for a small (under) 8m lei to use with a newly purchase Armstrong foil. I just sold a soul and am not a fan of foil kites due to local conditions.

Any personal experience appreciated. I have an older 5m OR prodigy. It is very touchy and has very limited wind range.

Cheers.

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Re: Small lei

Postby andylc » Sun Aug 30, 2020 10:34 am

F-one Breeze is very well behaved and available in a huge range of sizes. I have a larger one so can’t comment on the smaller sizes but it’s designed for foiling. Other one struts are available...

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Re: Small lei

Postby airsail » Sun Aug 30, 2020 12:03 pm

Depending on your riding style will govern what LEI is suitable. If back and forth is your thing, any 3 strut kite will do. But if you want to swell or wave ride, light weight is paramount so a light weight single strut or strut less is the go.
Even in strong winds, when the swell is bigger your going to need the lightest kite. This is because your speed down the waves means there is bugger all apparent wind to hold the kite up.

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Re: Small lei

Postby Nem0 » Sun Aug 30, 2020 4:45 pm

I love my Flysurfer Boost2 in 5m.
Good relaunch and behavior in less wind!

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Re: Small lei

Postby jakemoore » Sun Aug 30, 2020 6:27 pm

Boxer or UFO would be my choice. Light weight is meaningful on foil even for smaller sizes.

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Re: Small lei

Postby grigorib » Sun Aug 30, 2020 6:34 pm

5 and 7 UFOs

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Re: Small lei

Postby br44 » Mon Aug 31, 2020 8:52 pm

grtlakes wrote:
Sun Aug 30, 2020 4:46 am
Gentlemen,

I am looking for a recommendation for a small (under) 8m lei to use with a newly purchase Armstrong foil. I just sold a soul and am not a fan of foil kites due to local conditions.

Any personal experience appreciated. I have an older 5m OR prodigy. It is very touchy and has very limited wind range.

Cheers.
I know exactly the winds that you’re talking about.

IMHO, the Soul as well as any similar kites - with way too high AR - are no good in stronger gusty winds. Too risky — why ask for trouble? Even a so-called mid-AR kite (in my case PL Nova 6m) looked rather scary to me in the higher 20s.

The only reasonable option is small foil kites with very low AR. I foiled with a Concept Air Wave 4.5m in winds as high as mid 30 mph, gusting to 40+. No issues, and a pleasure. Another good option is likely the Firefly (as small as 1.5m). The small Peaks might be acceptable too, though their AR is rather high.

Or, get a small LEI. My point is that flying a Soul does not tell you what foil kites can do in a storm. To get a better idea about their limits, try the small Concept Air kites.

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Re: Small lei

Postby geokite » Mon Aug 31, 2020 9:33 pm

I found the 6m Nova to be twitchy (nose collapse prone) in lighter winds than 20...

My 6m FRS has been wonderful in gusty winds. Lower aspect than a Soul, and I suspect thicker. I have a 4m Kitech FRS on order. Didn't even know he made a 4m until I asked.

I have the smaller Switch Element6 kites (3,4,5). They have been ok for higher winds (haven't flown the 3). Just don't have that smooth foil kite feel.

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Re: Small lei

Postby andylc » Mon Aug 31, 2020 9:36 pm

Excellent. ‘I’m not a fan of foil kites’

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Re: Small lei

Postby PurdyKiter » Mon Aug 31, 2020 9:53 pm

I Like Clouds. After your break-in learning they are the easiest re-launch, drift like magic in wave and down wind foiling, super forgiving in "kitemares", snappy fast pivot turns and loops. Downside: Not a boosting kite.


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