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Re: Foil board advice

Postby JoseTumaco » Thu Nov 05, 2020 8:05 pm

PrfctChaos wrote:
Thu Nov 05, 2020 4:27 am
JoseTumaco wrote:
Thu Nov 05, 2020 3:14 am
Thanks to All for this interesting info. Considering it, I am thinking in a board Between 110 and 125 cm long ¿is it really similar or is it better near 125 cm? Only freeride, not for jumping
What size and weight board are you on at the moment?

And do you often go out in conditions that are so light that you struggle to get up and flying on the 633?
I actually ride a 140 x 40 cm board, with very big volume. And I dont ride with so light conditions you mention. So my question is... wich board to choose... ¿110 cm/ 120 cm / 125 cm? All are similar?
Not for race, but for freeride

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Re: Foil board advice

Postby PrfctChaos » Thu Nov 05, 2020 10:57 pm

In that case I would say anything in the 1m-1.2m range will be perfect (even the tray94, since its pretty wide). You will get used to any of them quickly and enjoy the new freedom. My only recommendatio would be to make sure the board weight is below 2kg. In my experience there is a big difference in the experience between riding a 3kg board or a <2kg board.

Also check out this OK kiteboarder video, seems to be very suitable for this topic.


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Re: Foil board advice

Postby purdyd » Fri Nov 06, 2020 3:47 pm

JoseTumaco wrote:
Thu Nov 05, 2020 8:05 pm
PrfctChaos wrote:
Thu Nov 05, 2020 4:27 am
JoseTumaco wrote:
Thu Nov 05, 2020 3:14 am
Thanks to All for this interesting info. Considering it, I am thinking in a board Between 110 and 125 cm long ¿is it really similar or is it better near 125 cm? Only freeride, not for jumping
What size and weight board are you on at the moment?

And do you often go out in conditions that are so light that you struggle to get up and flying on the 633?
I actually ride a 140 x 40 cm board, with very big volume. And I dont ride with so light conditions you mention. So my question is... wich board to choose... ¿110 cm/ 120 cm / 125 cm? All are similar?
Not for race, but for freeride
I’d say if you are keeping your big board and you don’t ride in light conditions go smaller.

I don’t believe 110-120 is the sweet spot, I would go smaller but if you have your mind made up on that range go 110.

You can tell the difference with lighter shorter boards.

Most shorter boards I have seen do have adequate nose flip.

Good luck!

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Re: Foil board advice

Postby JoseTumaco » Sat Nov 07, 2020 6:53 pm

purdyd wrote:
Fri Nov 06, 2020 3:47 pm
JoseTumaco wrote:
Thu Nov 05, 2020 8:05 pm
PrfctChaos wrote:
Thu Nov 05, 2020 4:27 am


What size and weight board are you on at the moment?

And do you often go out in conditions that are so light that you struggle to get up and flying on the 633?
I actually ride a 140 x 40 cm board, with very big volume. And I dont ride with so light conditions you mention. So my question is... wich board to choose... ¿110 cm/ 120 cm / 125 cm? All are similar?
Not for race, but for freeride
I’d say if you are keeping your big board and you don’t ride in light conditions go smaller.

I don’t believe 110-120 is the sweet spot, I would go smaller but if you have your mind made up on that range go 110.

You can tell the difference with lighter shorter boards.

Most shorter boards I have seen do have adequate nose flip.

Good luck!
Thanks, I really have nit idea if it is better 97, 100, 110 or 120 cm (in my case), I am only "thinking" what to do from reading advice up here, so I apreciarse a lot any advice. Some wrote that less than 110 is not convenient,... Do you think so?

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Re: Foil board advice

Postby purdyd » Sat Nov 07, 2020 7:10 pm

The slingshot small dwarfcraft @ 106.cm is pretty popular and I see a lot of people go straight to that from their first board they learned on.

Usually the comment is it is easier on the smaller board as far as staying on or even coming up on foil. Easier to maneuver in the water and on foil.

I notice this year that slingshot has 100cm, 110cm and 120cm versions.

110cm is a pretty safe size but 100cm is not really that much smaller.

I’d get whatever you can easily get in that size range or whatever your local crew is riding.

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Re: Foil board advice

Postby ScottKD » Sun Oct 31, 2021 11:20 pm

Reviving an old thread in the hope of some advice.

I'm considering Axis Tray 110 and 125, coming from a Dwarftcraft 4'6".

I'm an 85 kg relative beginner, comfortable riding back and forth, up and down wind, working on gybes, riding toeside, and foot switches with mixed success.

Would the 110 be too much of a jump down? Would I outgrow the 125?

Which would you recommend?

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Re: Foil board advice

Postby Flyboy » Mon Nov 01, 2021 6:39 am

ScottKD wrote:
Sun Oct 31, 2021 11:20 pm
Reviving an old thread in the hope of some advice.

I'm considering Axis Tray 110 and 125, coming from a Dwarftcraft 4'6".

I'm an 85 kg relative beginner, comfortable riding back and forth, up and down wind, working on gybes, riding toeside, and foot switches with mixed success.

Would the 110 be too much of a jump down? Would I outgrow the 125?

Which would you recommend?
I'm not using an Axis Tray, but in general I would say that a 110cm board is a perfectly reasonable step down from a Dwarfcraft 4'6". Once you have mastered water starts & consistent foiling you're ready for a smaller board. I went from a 4'6" Dwarfcraft to a 3'6" Dwarfcraft - aside from a couple of sessions to adjust to water starting with a smaller board, the adjustment was completely painless. Having a less bulky board makes it significantly easier to manoeuvre foil on land & on the water.

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Re: Foil board advice

Postby ieism » Mon Nov 01, 2021 8:41 am

I like new gear as much as the next guy but I'm holding off buying a smaller board.

I was riding a session a few months ago when a 12 year old on the same Dwarfcraft 4"6 that I ride was basically riding circles around me, turning the board tight at will and jumping pretty high as well. If that guy doesn't need a smaller board, then I'm fine on it for a second season I think.

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Re: Foil board advice

Postby Kamikuza » Mon Nov 01, 2021 9:03 am

ScottKD wrote:
Sun Oct 31, 2021 11:20 pm
Reviving an old thread in the hope of some advice.

I'm considering Axis Tray 110 and 125, coming from a Dwarftcraft 4'6".

I'm an 85 kg relative beginner, comfortable riding back and forth, up and down wind, working on gybes, riding toeside, and foot switches with mixed success.

Would the 110 be too much of a jump down? Would I outgrow the 125?

Which would you recommend?
I'm heavier than you. I took my Dwarfcraft 3'6" home, and got to borrow a 110 tray while it was being repaired... I thought the Tray would be too small :lol: especially because of the lack of volume. Wasn't the case, no noticeable difference in bottom end. I did tend to bury the nose a bit when I touched down, but I adapted to that pretty soon. Felt much the same when actually riding.

I prefer the shape of the DC -- wider in the rear and narrower at the front, relatively speaking. The volume of the DC is a bit of a mental crutch, and the extra material makes it tougher in my mind :D

I do think you'd want the 110 if you got a 125. I've also got a 125cm board, and even though it's shaped more like a surfboard it feels more cumbersome...

My most used board while learning was an Axis Ride 145x48...

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Re: Foil board advice

Postby Kamikuza » Mon Nov 01, 2021 9:04 am

ieism wrote:
Mon Nov 01, 2021 8:41 am
I like new gear as much as the next guy but I'm holding off buying a smaller board.

I was riding a session a few months ago when a 12 year old on the same Dwarfcraft 4"6 that I ride was basically riding circles around me, turning the board tight at will and jumping pretty high as well. If that guy doesn't need a smaller board, then I'm fine on it for a second season I think.
Try a smaller one if you can. Feels so much freer...


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