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Re: Adapt Moses 683/679 For kite fuse

Posted: Fri Dec 25, 2020 12:56 pm
by grigorib
richy-c wrote:
Fri Dec 25, 2020 7:52 am
grigorib wrote:
Thu Dec 24, 2020 1:14 am
^^^ those are two I rode
Hi grig. Is there any difference in the feeling of the ride with e.g the 633 when using the surf fuse and kite fuse with adapter?
Barely. It was a smooth ride, all good. Given that you’d ride with slightly smaller stabilizer which some prefer anyways.
To me the adapter opened an option not to have a separate surf fuselage and still be able to mount a larger wing.

Re: Adapt Moses 683/679 For kite fuse

Posted: Fri Dec 25, 2020 10:20 pm
by aleks
You can go another route and use Moses compatible RDB wings. They all fit Moses kiting fuselage. Here is a video about RDB foils:



RDB have 730 and 1200cm2 wings (with more sizes coming). Plus they are about half the price of Moses. Let me know if you need more information.

Re: Adapt Moses 683/679 For kite fuse

Posted: Sat Dec 26, 2020 4:46 pm
by a99
aleks wrote:
Fri Dec 25, 2020 10:20 pm
You can go another route and use Moses compatible RDB wings. They all fit Moses kiting fuselage. Here is a video about RDB foils:
RDB have 730 and 1200cm2 wings (with more sizes coming). Plus they are about half the price of Moses. Let me know if you need more information.
RDB making as wing copies of Moses or own shaped wings? because what is most important in foiling is succesfull wing shape and geometry engineering.

Re: Adapt Moses 683/679 For kite fuse

Posted: Sat Dec 26, 2020 5:05 pm
by grigorib
aleks wrote:
Fri Dec 25, 2020 10:20 pm
You can go another route and use Moses compatible RDB wings. They all fit Moses kiting fuselage. Here is a video about RDB foils:



RDB have 730 and 1200cm2 wings (with more sizes coming). Plus they are about half the price of Moses. Let me know if you need more information.
1200 wing looks interesting but I didn’t find it on their web page. I should start updating my compatibility chart with RDB :)

Does 1200 wing fit 710/749 surf fuselage only?

Re: Adapt Moses 683/679 For kite fuse

Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2020 6:57 pm
by aleks
a99 wrote:
Sat Dec 26, 2020 4:46 pm
RDB making as wing copies of Moses or own shaped wings? because what is most important in foiling is succesfull wing shape and geometry engineering.
RDB have their own shapes - there are no exact copies of any Moses wings or masts. They use design by Roman Lyubimcev - creator of Elf kites. He did design some wings for Moses, and I think that is why they have Moses compatibility - he just kept the connections design from Moses work.

So far there are 3 main wings and matching stabilizers (with more coming soon):

- Freerace 600cm2
- Freeride 730cm2
- Surf 1200cm2

They all fit KITING Moses fuselage (NOT surfing). I ride RDB wings almost exclusively and I find the quality of ride and wings themself to be on par with Moses. Here is a little video of me riding RDB freerace wings on Moses 101 mast:



RDB also have Moses compatible masts in 70 and 90cm and bunch of boards.

I help RDB to distribute in North America, so if anyone is interested, please PM me and I'll set you up :D .

Re: Adapt Moses 683/679 For kite fuse

Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2020 7:04 pm
by aleks
grigorib wrote:
Sat Dec 26, 2020 5:05 pm
1200 wing looks interesting but I didn’t find it on their web page. I should start updating my compatibility chart with RDB :)

Does 1200 wing fit 710/749 surf fuselage only?
Thanks for the interest grigorib :thumb: . All RDB wings fit kiting fuselage only - they don't have anything that fits surf fuselage. The fuselage used with 1200 wing in the video is not a surf fuse - it is just RDBs own longer fuselage that is compatible with kiting Moses wings. It is longer for stability on bigger wings, but 1200 wings can be used on regular kiting fuse.

If you are interested in RDB, I have an interesting proposal - PM me to discuss :D

Re: Adapt Moses 683/679 For kite fuse

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 5:28 am
by grigorib
Compatibility chart updated
viewtopic.php?p=1075851#p1075851

Re: Adapt Moses 683/679 For kite fuse

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 9:07 pm
by duckypoos
Are RDB available in the Uk ? Also would it be possible to redrill the 683 wing to fit the kite fuse or is the profile to different?

Re: Adapt Moses 683/679 For kite fuse

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 9:25 pm
by aleks
duckypoos wrote:
Mon Dec 28, 2020 9:07 pm
Are RDB available in the Uk ?
Yes, RDB can ship it to you in the UK, no problem. They do ship quite a bit to Europe.

Re: Adapt Moses 683/679 For kite fuse

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 9:34 pm
by oregonkiter
Website to look at product other than FB or Instagram out there?