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cwood
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Re: Moses W679

Postby cwood » Fri Jan 15, 2021 12:10 am

grigorib wrote:
Tue Jan 12, 2021 11:46 pm
cwood wrote:
Tue Jan 12, 2021 9:47 pm
grigorib wrote:
Tue Jan 12, 2021 9:37 pm
I loved my 683s and 679 which are same wing. Once I rode 683s I sold my 633 and never looked back. Reached about 26 MPH one time I decided to measure top speed. Great wing yet later I switched to 695 and later to 800 because they mount on lighter, more compact 647 fuselage. Also higher aspect wings are a bit more roll stable, not that I would really care about that though.

679 is awesome but depending on your weight/style/kites/conditions you might want to consider 695 or 800.
Hey, tangent....for a female in the 150lb range....what would be similar to the 679 from a low speed perspective....695 or 800? I bought her a 679 but its still in the box....I wanted it under the tree at christmas but wasn't gonna get the fuse yet. Pisses me off to have to buy that big fuse a second time.
For 150lbs the 695 would be plenty lowendish wing. The 800 might seem as too large wingspan-wise, but it’s also smooth and even more lowendish, yet it can scream pretty fast and be very stable at speed if one enjoys fast rides.

Really, the heavy/bulky surf fuselage is something that set me back off from riding 633-683s-679. Also 483-450 stabilizers are relatively thick and not as awesome as 425

What wind does she ride now?
Primarily 558 but moved her to RDB wave which is a low AR but not huge. I think the 679 is perfection for her but having to pick up another fuse bugs my ass.

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Boards: Spleene RIP 37, Flysurfer Radical6 138, Flysurfer Flydoor5 XL, Slingshot/Moses 80/91/101cm masts with 800/425 695/425 637/420 1000/421 wingsets, 36" Woody, Slingshot Dwarfcraft Micro 3'6" 2019-2020, MBS Comp 95x

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Re: Moses W679

Postby grigorib » Fri Jan 15, 2021 12:31 am

cwood wrote:
Fri Jan 15, 2021 12:10 am
grigorib wrote:
Tue Jan 12, 2021 11:46 pm
What wind does she ride now?
Primarily 558 but moved her to RDB wave which is a low AR but not huge. I think the 679 is perfection for her but having to pick up another fuse bugs my ass.
RDB 1200 is 20% larger than 679 so should be more lightwindish.
Also huge advantage of RDB is that it fits same kite fuselage.

If anything, I’d get get 730 RDB so she has a fast wing, a cruising wing and extreme lightwind wing.

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Re: Moses W679

Postby cwood » Fri Jan 15, 2021 12:39 am

grigorib wrote:
Fri Jan 15, 2021 12:31 am
cwood wrote:
Fri Jan 15, 2021 12:10 am
grigorib wrote:
Tue Jan 12, 2021 11:46 pm
What wind does she ride now?
Primarily 558 but moved her to RDB wave which is a low AR but not huge. I think the 679 is perfection for her but having to pick up another fuse bugs my ass.
RDB 1200 is 20% larger than 679 so should be more lightwindish.
Also huge advantage of RDB is that it fits same kite fuselage.

If anything, I’d get get 730 RDB so she has a fast wing, a cruising wing and extreme lightwind wing.
You are thinking of the monster RDB. This is the small wave.

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Boards: Spleene RIP 37, Flysurfer Radical6 138, Flysurfer Flydoor5 XL, Slingshot/Moses 80/91/101cm masts with 800/425 695/425 637/420 1000/421 wingsets, 36" Woody, Slingshot Dwarfcraft Micro 3'6" 2019-2020, MBS Comp 95x

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Re: Moses W679

Postby grigorib » Fri Jan 15, 2021 3:08 am

If you really want to keep the 679 for some occasional use with same kite fuselage I’d go for an adapter. For myself thought I’d go for much larger size though then in 1200-1500 sq.cm range for “barely any wind” conditions. Yet for 150 lbs those sizes would be challenging to keep down in water :)
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grigorib
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Boards: Spleene RIP 37, Flysurfer Radical6 138, Flysurfer Flydoor5 XL, Slingshot/Moses 80/91/101cm masts with 800/425 695/425 637/420 1000/421 wingsets, 36" Woody, Slingshot Dwarfcraft Micro 3'6" 2019-2020, MBS Comp 95x

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Re: Moses W679

Postby grigorib » Fri Jan 15, 2021 6:50 am

cwood wrote:
Fri Jan 15, 2021 12:39 am
grigorib wrote:
Fri Jan 15, 2021 12:31 am
cwood wrote:
Fri Jan 15, 2021 12:10 am

Primarily 558 but moved her to RDB wave which is a low AR but not huge. I think the 679 is perfection for her but having to pick up another fuse bugs my ass.
RDB 1200 is 20% larger than 679 so should be more lightwindish.
Also huge advantage of RDB is that it fits same kite fuselage.

If anything, I’d get get 730 RDB so she has a fast wing, a cruising wing and extreme lightwind wing.
You are thinking of the monster RDB. This is the small wave.
So I checked with RDB guys and 730 wouldn’t cover the front fuselage-to-mast mount bolts in Moses fuselage. Neither 695 and 800 would and at 150 lbs the 770 sq.cm of 695 which is thicker than 558 would make huge difference in lowend and lower cruising speed


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