I had the 34 tail for a while, used it with a Surf 170, sold the tail. With all the water reflections from boat wakes in the bay I kite in, I needed more stability.Just Passing Through wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 5:52 am"This is all with a 50 tail. I'll try a 40 tail soon."
Go right to the 34 tail. You won't be disappinted. I run a modified 200 Classic with the 34 tail for kiting. Great in any wind and spins around with ease.
From comparing the 200 Classic to the 200 Surf V1. The Surf V1 seemed to have a thicker foil section and more turn-down on the tips. More lift but reduced top speed.
Your mileage may vary. It all depends on what your riding style is. I have buddies that can't ride my foil set-up, but love tiny high aspect wings...
SMJ wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 11:11 amGoogle "square inches to square centimeters" and the converter will pop up. Then enter in the Lift wing size. Per the converter, the 200 wing is approximately 1290 cm2.
Thanks. I have only ridden the Classic wings, but it seems like fighter jets are better for kite foiling. I can see why you'd want efficiency for foil surfing or downwind winging, but I don't really care about efficiency with a kite. Particularly in waves, I just want to be able to turn as fast as possible.SMJ wrote: ↑Tue Mar 23, 2021 6:52 pmjunebug,
Picture it like airplanes - fighter jet vs. glider where the V1 Surf wings (and Classic wings) are the fighter jets and the high aspect wings are the gliders.
The HA front wings give more glide, less drag, and are much more efficient. The HA wings sacrifice maneuverability (i.e. banking tight turns) and stability (i.e. you probably wouldn't put a first-timer on a HA wing - unless you're a big meanie). The HA wings are more efficient for pumping as well.
Personally, I like to ride my 200 V1 Surf wing with 50 rear stabilizer (which is very similar to the 200 Classic) in the ocean, since it's more stable and I can bank turns over waves and swells with more confidence. But a lot of people like to ride the HA wings for riding ocean swells and gliding / pumping.
I like to ride my 200 HA with 50 rear stabilizer in back bays and canals where the water is flat. The HA wing adds 20% - 30% battery life, since it's so efficient. I also like riding the 170 Classic in back bays and canals when I want to ride faster.
Caveat: I seem to change my preferences monthly, so all of the above preferences may change! But the principles are still the same.
Note: The V2 Surf Wing that Lift released in 2021 is more high aspect than the V1 Surf. I have yet to ride one, but the V2 Surf looks like it's somewhere in between the Classic series and the HA series as far as aspect ratio.
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