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Re: mystic rope slider how to have a backup rope?

Postby papasmerf » Tue Mar 02, 2021 5:18 am

SMJ wrote:
Tue Mar 02, 2021 5:02 am
The Mystic Stealth Surf Rope Spreader Bar has a built-in mini-rope (used for locking the slider in-place for boosting and such) that could be used in a pinch if the primary rope breaks.

https://www.mysticboarding.com/products ... readerbar-
ah yes,,, in fact my idea was to put a small hanging tag line on that mini rope and onto the ring,,,,not the greatest plan but the last time my rope broke, the bar got yanked out of my hands and i didn't have it set up suicide so it went to safety, long story short, kind of a mess,,, would rather not have to repeat, i now have it set up semi-suicide to avoid that bit again. but i like your idea, will keep it in mind

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Re: mystic rope slider how to have a backup rope?

Postby papasmerf » Tue Mar 02, 2021 5:21 am

lovethepirk wrote:
Tue Mar 02, 2021 5:06 am
papa,

You can try 7/64" dyneema for your backup. It is just under 3mm diam so you may be able to slot it thru the existing hole. I use them for steering line pigtails. They are 1400 pound strength so in case your 3/16" main line breaks you don't have to worry at all. Just make sure you tie a large knot behind the hole.
https://www.westmarine.com/buy/samson-r ... _-DY-_-PDP

I use two O rings for backup reasons. I rode a chicken loop for a winter season without wear. Now I use a wichard 2673 instead of the CL. I use the rings from West Marine that are 1" ID and 1/4" wire diameter, making the entire ring OD at 1.5".
https://www.westmarine.com/buy/west-mar ... 60_006_002
i happen to have some of that size,,,i am not sure if it will fit thru the same hole but will check it out. should be able to get me back at least

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Re: mystic rope slider how to have a backup rope?

Postby Foil » Tue Mar 02, 2021 8:53 am

PrfctChaos wrote:
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Splice a 5mm dyneema rope into another 5 mm dyneema ropa and use that. Once you have worn through the outside of the first rope it is time to change.
exactly what I did for my buddies single line rope slider, used heavily many times a week for the last year, works well, makes a very thick and strong slider rope,
overkill but stress free :thumb:
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Re: mystic rope slider how to have a backup rope?

Postby windfreak74 » Tue Mar 02, 2021 1:42 pm

hello Papasmerf, i changed to the skshape quick release and waxed the rope.i use a 28 cm mystic bar on a belt harness.
left the original ring for leash attachment. havent ridden since december 2020 so im almost on to the psych ward!
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Re: mystic rope slider how to have a backup rope?

Postby papasmerf » Wed Mar 03, 2021 6:10 pm

good god! untying the rope on this mystic bar so i can slide on a smc ring is ridiculous,, it would be simple if whoever put it on in the first place would have left more than 2mm of tail in the knot.

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Re: mystic rope slider how to have a backup rope?

Postby alowishus » Sat Mar 06, 2021 12:35 pm

PrfctChaos wrote:
Tue Mar 02, 2021 1:37 am
Splice a 5mm dyneema rope into another 5 mm dyneema ropa and use that. Once you have worn through the outside of the first rope it is time to change.
PrftChaos, can you please explain exactly what you mean here and how you went about it?

Do you have a photo you could share?

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Re: mystic rope slider how to have a backup rope?

Postby jakemoore » Sat Mar 06, 2021 5:08 pm

papasmerf wrote:
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yes, one slider rope breaking was enough for me. but are you saying you drilled 2 new holes in a mystic slider bar? it looked problematic to me
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Re: mystic rope slider how to have a backup rope?

Postby PrfctChaos » Mon Mar 08, 2021 12:10 am

alowishus wrote:
Sat Mar 06, 2021 12:35 pm
PrfctChaos wrote:
Tue Mar 02, 2021 1:37 am
Splice a 5mm dyneema rope into another 5 mm dyneema ropa and use that. Once you have worn through the outside of the first rope it is time to change.
PrftChaos, can you please explain exactly what you mean here and how you went about it?

Do you have a photo you could share?
Sure, here is a photo. Don't mind the sand :D
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That dyneema line in the photo literally has another 5mm dyneema line running inside for the full length. So it is nice and neat and protected inside the outer line. Once the outer line is worn through (Easy to see this way), the inside line is still there giving full strength backup.

I have only managed to wear through lines using slider rings (Low friction rings, lol), had to replace about twice a year usually. But haven't managed to wear though yet using a pulley (1.5 years and still no real visible wear).
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Re: mystic rope slider how to have a backup rope?

Postby papasmerf » Tue Mar 09, 2021 2:05 am

jakemoore wrote:
Sat Mar 06, 2021 5:08 pm
papasmerf wrote:
Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:35 am
yes, one slider rope breaking was enough for me. but are you saying you drilled 2 new holes in a mystic slider bar? it looked problematic to me
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so you did drill new holes, it appears,, what size dyneema did you get?

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Re: mystic rope slider how to have a backup rope?

Postby papasmerf » Tue Mar 09, 2021 2:07 am

PrfctChaos wrote:
Mon Mar 08, 2021 12:10 am
alowishus wrote:
Sat Mar 06, 2021 12:35 pm
PrfctChaos wrote:
Tue Mar 02, 2021 1:37 am
Splice a 5mm dyneema rope into another 5 mm dyneema ropa and use that. Once you have worn through the outside of the first rope it is time to change.
PrftChaos, can you please explain exactly what you mean here and how you went about it?

Do you have a photo you could share?
Sure, here is a photo. Don't mind the sand :D

Capture.PNG

That dyneema line in the photo literally has another 5mm dyneema line running inside for the full length. So it is nice and neat and protected inside the outer line. Once the outer line is worn through (Easy to see this way), the inside line is still there giving full strength backup.

I have only managed to wear through lines using slider rings (Low friction rings, lol), had to replace about twice a year usually. But haven't managed to wear though yet using a pulley (1.5 years and still no real visible wear).
does the protective sheath just end or does it go into the weave of the underlying rope? if not,, when not using a pulley but rather a climbing ring,, doesn't it move the protective sheath back and forth?


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