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Re: Lineset Recommendations

Postby Matteo V » Fri Mar 12, 2021 5:03 pm

t_huebs wrote:
Tue Mar 09, 2021 5:39 pm
I'm off Q-power after the cover died and the core was exposed right at the base of a sewn termination, after not much use foiling. I was thinking about trying the knots just to see but after watching the pull tests, I think I'm going to skip it. Watch here:
The key to maintaining strength at sleeved sewn loops is to wet the line first.

Most kiters know that a child's kite flown on cotton string will cut right through your dyneema kite line. The strength critical temp for dyneema is around 150⁰F (66⁰C). Its melting temp is 277⁰F (136⁰C). The friction of the cotton line going over kite lines will cut right through dyneema by either melting it or reducing its strength under load.

The needle and Nylon or Dacron thread of a fast moving sewing machine will do the same. By wetting the dyneema, and even the thread, you can avoid cutting the inner strands with friction heat.

No factory would ever go to these lengths to ensure full strength of the splice loop. This attention to detail is something that you can only get by building the lineset yourself.

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Re: Lineset Recommendations

Postby t_huebs » Sat Mar 13, 2021 6:35 am

Posted this elsewhere but issue wasn’t really with sewing.

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Re: Lineset Recommendations

Postby nixmatters » Sat Mar 13, 2021 7:55 am

geokite wrote:
Thu Mar 11, 2021 5:31 am
I recommend getting SK99 by the foot at greenhat kiteboarding, and learn to splice. It's not hard, just time consuming.
what?!? :roll: $150 for 100 meters of SK99 line!
For such price he can have a ready made set and not bother with measuring, pulling and splicing.

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Re: Lineset Recommendations

Postby Herman » Sat Mar 13, 2021 11:41 am

watercamper wrote:
Fri Mar 12, 2021 4:17 am

Is there a video or site that you've found from a reputable source that shows how to make a splice? From what I read, you don't have to sew a splice or need to sleeve it.
Hi watercamper! As already stated Marlow is a good source of info and gear. As you probably know the stitching in a splice with a full bury is, simplistically, only there to hold the splice in place when not under load. For flying lines I use a simple splice with long bury but normally put in a few loose hand sown stitches. With the nature of the splice and use, I am tempted not to bother with stitching and so, I would be interested to know if you can pass on any in practice experience with lines without stitching. Obviously it would have to be factored into your line management and inspection routine.

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