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Re: Foil size for heavy rider

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 11:40 am
by Abaltasis
bragnouff wrote:
Wed Mar 17, 2021 6:22 am
I'd finish on a note, that foiling seems to exacerbate the gear-freak-ness that resides within us, and at some stage, it's probably best to not think too much about the gear and spend more time on the water instead.
+1 to that
The "gear-freak-ness" with foilboarding is off the charts!
With so much information about foils the more you think on it the more difficult it is to chose gear.

After checking everything i could on the internet, i bought yesterday a Gong Catch board 4'4 and their easiest foil Rise with 1260projected area.

With my 115kg weight i am eager to try it out and see if i can learn on it 8)
Big Thanks to everyone that helped me chose my gear in this thread.

Re: Foil size for heavy rider

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 12:21 pm
by Kamikuza
bragnouff wrote:
Wed Mar 17, 2021 6:22 am
I guess the foil underneath also dictates the threshold of gains and diminishing returns. Or maybe I haven't tried a good tiny board yet, that would make me revise my opinion on swing weight. I'd have to try your 110 when you're allowed to come over... Anyway my point is that once your swing weight is contained and feels manageable (according to rider's weight, height and stance), and once it fits easily in the car, then going smaller doesn't seem to really provide tangible benefits, while losing some points on quite a few other fronts: light wind, forgiveness to sloppy riding or to messy conditions, ability to rescue and paddle back to shore, ability to surf foil on it, ability to wingfoil on it (working on it), ...
And since we're all different in terms of requirements and local conditions, it's kind of hard to come up with a rule that works for everyone. There's plenty to do already with a reasonably sized foil under a reasonably sized board.

I'd finish on a note, that foiling seems to exacerbate the gear-freak-ness that resides within us, and at some stage, it's probably best to not think too much about the gear and spend more time on the water instead.
If you notice small differences, small differences will be noticeable to you, and if you think a bigger board will provide more of a margin, then you'll be happier with a bigger board and live with or not even notice the sluggish handling.

I don't see any losses between 145x48 30L and 110x45 19L that are severe enough to outweigh the benefits to feeling and response the smaller board gives ... and going from 125 to 110 is better again with no measurable loss.

So I agree that individual needs determine gear choices... but the smaller board is the better choice :D

... yeah, shut up and ride, as Adrian would say to me!

Re: Foil size for heavy rider

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 10:57 pm
by PrfctChaos
Abaltasis wrote:
Wed Mar 17, 2021 11:40 am
bragnouff wrote:
Wed Mar 17, 2021 6:22 am
I'd finish on a note, that foiling seems to exacerbate the gear-freak-ness that resides within us, and at some stage, it's probably best to not think too much about the gear and spend more time on the water instead.
+1 to that
The "gear-freak-ness" with foilboarding is off the charts!
With so much information about foils the more you think on it the more difficult it is to chose gear.

After checking everything i could on the internet, i bought yesterday a Gong Catch board 4'4 and their easiest foil Rise with 1260projected area.

With my 115kg weight i am eager to try it out and see if i can learn on it 8)
Big Thanks to everyone that helped me chose my gear in this thread.
I think that will go well 👍. Good idea to get a mate that can foil to take the rig for a quick ride and make sure it is all setup well. Also good if you have access to a boat, to do a day wakeboarding with that foil setup to get the feel for it (without the kite), very easy that way.

Re: Foil size for heavy rider

Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2021 6:20 am
by Kamikuza
Or just use the boat to get you way the hell upwind of the shallows too