UFO vs boxer

[dkazhdan]

Hi guys, I am trying to replace my 8m 2017/2018 boxer, wondering if a 7m UFO would be an adequate replacement in terms of the low end?

I was flying my boxer in 12knots on 29m lines, (200 pounds), do you think 7m UFO would deliver the same low end?

much appreciated

[BJkitesurf]

You can meet me at Meade in Hollywood so you can test my UFO 7.

[dkazhdan]

i may take you up on that one, very much appreciated.

[KVL]

Please let us know how they compare when tested.

[francis luengo]

Hi guys, I am trying to replace my 8m 2017/2018 boxer, wondering if a 7m UFO would be an adequate replacement in terms of the low end?

I was flying my boxer in 12knots on 29m lines, (200 pounds), do you think 7m UFO would deliver the same low end?

much appreciated

Yes....easily and don´t need 29m lines.

[Rikifil]

I own ufo v1.1 in 9-7-5m
With the 7m I can ride from 11 knots with w679, 80kg and standard 20m lines.
The UFO 7m is a fantastic kite for HF in waves

[dkazhdan]

Please let us know how they compare when tested.

absolutely

[junebug]

Please let us know how they compare when tested.

absolutely

Does anyone else have thoughts on Boxers vs. UFOs? I've been foiling with Boxers for about 5 years (Boxers for flat water; Peaks for waves) and I'm thinking about trying out the UFO to replace both the Boxers and Peaks (though I'm skeptical they will be able to compare with Peaks' drift). My wind range is 10-20kn so I'm thinking 8/6/5. Any comments on the differences in Boxers and UFOs would be appreciated. I'm particularly interested in drift and power at apex. I assume the UFO's drift is better than Boxers but curious about how much better, and I'm wondering if the strutless frame provides good lift at apex for maneuvers.

[alekbelia]

...The UFO 7m is a fantastic kite for HF in waves...

UFO is really good kite for maneuvers but for waves nothing can beat singleskins.

[Onda]

I feel very qualified to answer!
Had the exact 8 m² Boxer model with my first foil setup.
Fell in love with foiling the waves (did strapless waveriding with kite for 10 years before touching the foil).
Then completely switched to the Peaks (4 / 5 / 8 m²). Loved them so much! Sooo much! The drift and ease of use (OK, don´t drop the into the waves ).
Then tried the UFOs. Never went back to the Peaks. Overall, the Ufo is the much better (wave) foil kite for me.

To answer your question:
Yes, the 7 m² UFO (V2) will substitute the 8 m² Boxer easily. Don´t buy the V1 or V1.1.

The 7 m² Ufo is 1,500 % more fun than the 8 m² Boxer. At least.

Yes, the Peaks drift slightly better than the Ufos. But the Ufos drift really really well as well.
And yes, the Peaks still fly in less wind.
However, the Ufo bring you up to flight in less wind than the Peaks due to their unique power characteristic. They have loads of pull when moved fast, and (actually!) total depower once up and flying. The Peak is absolutely gutless when water starting (looping doesn´t help), it needs quite a lot of wind (relatively to the wind speed required once up and flying). When the wind is not sufficient to keep the Ufo flying, I don´t have fun any more anyway. If it falls and you cannot relaunch it, then at least you have an inflated swimming aid. The Peak is a catastrophy when it falls into the water (waves!). Believe me.
The Ufos drift a bit less excellent than the Peaks, but for me this is not relevant because we have 100 % wind swell here. When the waves get bigger, the wind gets stronger too. And from 5 m² downwards the Ufo´s drift is no limiting factor at all, as the wind is fast enough anyway to make the kite drift well.