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Post by grigorib » Thu Apr 01, 2021 6:13 pm
Thanks to all the lockdowns less people show up on water and prototypes are standing out more obvious. Both Flysurfer and Ozone are playing catch up with winging world which got dominated by LEI wings. Not a secret that ram air closed cell kites dominate racing scene and their single skins are grabbing segment of foiling.
Finally same efficient equipment combined with semi-rigid struts and simplified bridle systems will become available for wingers. Yet another lost case for LEI folks
Fly the foil!
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Post by darippah » Thu Apr 01, 2021 6:50 pm
grigorib wrote: ↑ Thu Apr 01, 2021 6:13 pm
Thanks to all the lockdowns less people show up on water and prototypes are standing out more obvious. Both Flysurfer and Ozone are playing catch up with winging world which got dominated by LEI wings. Not a secret that ram air closed cell kites dominate racing scene and their single skins are grabbing segment of foiling.
Finally same efficient equipment combined with semi-rigid struts and simplified bridle systems will become available for wingers. Yet another lost case for LEI folks
Fly the foil!
Pics or it didn’t happen!
Would love to see Ram air wings. Single skin, open cell, closed cell, whatever
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Post by Toby » Thu Apr 01, 2021 7:08 pm
April 1st....
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Post by grigorib » Fri Apr 02, 2021 12:14 am
Toby wrote: ↑ Thu Apr 01, 2021 7:08 pm
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Post by Nem0 » Fri Apr 02, 2021 7:06 am
This would be definitely an interesting topic!
But not as „ram air wing“. This will not work.
But with an small Peak4 on 2-5m lines for example!
Any comments on that!?
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Post by BOEMIX » Fri Apr 02, 2021 7:35 am
They actally exist, the typical wings with a rigid frame like windsurfing sails people use on snow, right?
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Post by elguapo » Fri Apr 02, 2021 11:19 am
little known fact..
there already is a single skin-rigid frame winging thing.
i called it...
"the umbrella"
i'm pretty sure sales of umbrellas already dwarf all other wing things, kites...probably all watersport equipment combined to be honest.
i'd like to take credit for the the umbrella becoming the household name it is.... but the popularity was spontaneous and organic.
i can share the secret videos from testing...
notE the performance of my umbrella versus the very inferior designs such as the wing-thing and the closed cell RAM pineapple thingie thing.
VIDEO
VIDEO
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Post by joriws » Fri Apr 02, 2021 12:14 pm
Poles were conquered with Norwegian Skiseils hundred years ago.. The bar you see in the pic is the strut in today's wings. So it is not like kite bar.
Here is Mr. Flysurfer's video 0m lines, so mixer connected to kite bar..
VIDEO
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Post by Nem0 » Fri Apr 02, 2021 12:43 pm
BOEMIX wrote: ↑ Fri Apr 02, 2021 7:35 am
They actally exist, the typical wings with a rigid frame like windsurfing sails people use on snow, right?
Do you mean this one?
https://m.facebook.com/Wowsails/?locale2=de_DE
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Post by grigorib » Fri Apr 02, 2021 1:29 pm
Sounds like Flysurfer and Ozone gotta really catch up
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