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Size of a hydrofoil board for kite

Postby janeko » Sat May 01, 2021 9:37 pm

Hi all,

I'm currently planning to buy my first hydrofoil board for kiting and looking for something lightweight.

My top options right now are:
1. Cabrinha Special Agent (available sizes: 105cm, 125cm)
2. North Sense (available sizes: 135cm)
3. F-one Pocket (available sizes: 120cm, 130cm, 145cm)

But I'm not sure about the length of the board I should be choosing. I'm 6'3 (190cm), 187 lb (85kg).

What length would you advise from the above picks?

Thanks!

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Re: Size of a hydrofoil board for kite

Postby Breze » Sun May 02, 2021 6:56 am

Hi janeko
From the boards above, i would take the F-one Pocket 120cmx 46 if you are a fast learner, if your progression will be more mellow then 130x47.https://www.f-one.world/product/foilboard-pocket/
Why the Pocket ? V Straps ( V + 2 Straps confi would be even better). Long tracks for a wider variety of bigger front wings. Most importand: With some volume of around 20l few things work better.
The Cab and North boards are novolume and kind of snowboard construction: Woodcore with glass, ABS walls. No scoop! No volume. This sort of board is so simple that everybody who ever held a jigsaw in his hands could think about a diy project.
I would say that Cabs intergrated T-nuts and that the North board has only 2 straps is a downside.
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Re: Size of a hydrofoil board for kite

Postby lederhosen » Sun May 02, 2021 9:41 am

I started on a bigger foilboard because i read that it is easier at the beginning and switched to a 115cm crazyfly flite (can recommend) after a few months. I am not sure if i would buy a bigger board to start with again. It might be a bit less frustrating at the very beginning, but at some point soon it is just so much nicer on a smaller, lighter board.
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Re: Size of a hydrofoil board for kite

Postby janeko » Sun May 02, 2021 7:57 pm

Thanks both. To add more data - I'm planning to ride strapless, been doing wave strapless for a while now. I'm curious in what aspects the volume is helpful - I suppose easier water starts and perhaps helps handling lulls? Are there any other things to consider?

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Re: Size of a hydrofoil board for kite

Postby romian » Mon May 03, 2021 12:34 pm

I´m at the same point right now... trying to choose my first foilboard (but focused on splitboards).

When learning to ride a directional I used a 6"4' fish surfboard I had at home and found that too much volume and thick rails made waterstarts very difficult because of the high buoyancy. Board wanted to stay flat and even with a front strap setting, the board in the right position was hard.

I can choose 118 x 45 / 24 litres or 128 x 45.

I´m 155 lb. / 70 Kg, so based on your recommendations for @janeko maybe I could go with 118...

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Re: Size of a hydrofoil board for kite

Postby Kamikuza » Mon May 03, 2021 1:35 pm

F-one 120, or Double Agent 125 for skim board shits n giggles...

Smaller is better, ultimately. That 120 will feel like a barge when you try a real pocket board in the future...

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Re: Size of a hydrofoil board for kite

Postby Kamikuza » Mon May 03, 2021 1:39 pm

janeko wrote:
Sun May 02, 2021 7:57 pm
Thanks both. To add more data - I'm planning to ride strapless, been doing wave strapless for a while now. I'm curious in what aspects the volume is helpful - I suppose easier water starts and perhaps helps handling lulls? Are there any other things to consider?
How big are your waves?

Low wind water starts are IMHO where volume helps. Otherwise it's dead weight.

You can get around low volume with more surface area... But wide boards create their own problems in waves.

Short, narrow, a tad more volume ie. Dwarfcraft 3'6" not micro

Tombstone boards that have all their width in front of the front door tend to get caught mid-gybe in waves. Dwarfcraft is a nice shape.

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Re: Size of a hydrofoil board for kite

Postby Onda » Mon May 03, 2021 1:41 pm

I started from the same point like you (strapless wave before).
My first (strapless) foil setup was a Moses W633 / 91 cm mast and a "Skate" board from Groove Kiteboards (120 cm length, 5 cm thick, dunno about width any more).
That was pretty easy to start with, and also suitable for wave foiling.
Recently I changed the board to an Anton "Skater", 100 cm long and only 1.5 cm thick, super light (1.8 kg), super robust. This is much more fun to ride than the bigger board, particularly in waves. You could use it even as a beginner due to its large scoop (nose of boards bends upwards). Touchdowns are very foregiving.
https://anton-kiteboards.de/produkt/ant ... -skater-2/ (hand-made 100 % in Germany by one of the most experienced shapers, really good quality, very fair price)

Just like kamikuza says: Volume mainly enhances the light-wind properties of your foil setup. But as a beginner, light-wind is not what you want (as it makes everything much more complicated). Hence I´d say: Thick boards are not essential for a beginner.

It took me a long time to get into waves (hip-high maximum yet) with a foil. You need a lot of practice to gain the confidence needed. On a foil, even rediculessly small waves get over-exiting! But this is an essential part of the fun!

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Re: Size of a hydrofoil board for kite

Postby romian » Mon May 03, 2021 3:11 pm

Onda wrote:
Mon May 03, 2021 1:41 pm
Recently I changed the board to an Anton "Skater", 100 cm long and only 1.5 cm thick, super light (1.8 kg), super robust. This is much more fun to ride than the bigger board, particularly in waves. You could use it even as a beginner due to its large scoop (nose of boards bends upwards). Touchdowns are very foregiving.
https://anton-kiteboards.de/produkt/ant ... -skater-2/ (hand-made 100 % in Germany by one of the most experienced shapers, really good quality, very fair price)

Just like kamikuza says: Volume mainly enhances the light-wind properties of your foil setup. But as a beginner, light-wind is not what you want (as it makes everything much more complicated). Hence I´d say: Thick boards are not essential for a beginner.
I think I will go for this in 118 x45 split if they ship to my place:


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Re: Size of a hydrofoil board for kite

Postby romian » Mon May 03, 2021 5:42 pm

romian wrote:
Mon May 03, 2021 3:11 pm

I think I will go for this in 118 x45 split if they ship to my place:

The board is not in production anymore :cry:


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