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Re: ufo fluttering..normal?

Postby jumptheshark » Mon May 03, 2021 1:38 am

There there,

You have to learn the feel the kite. Forget looking at it. Feeeeeeel it. Let the energy course through you, tune into it, use the force.

Sheeted just right strutless kites really don't flap much.

They are pretty easy to make flap, but its still rider error. The longer you ride them, the better you get at it.... Unless your out in too much wind for the size kite your on.... then your simply overpowered and that is that.

Short lines help loads to mitigate flapping.
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Re: ufo fluttering..normal?

Postby jakemoore » Mon May 03, 2021 3:00 am

I just dont let it bother me. UFO has a pretty good top end too. It makes some noise but isn’t really a problem in too much pull. For me the sweet spot is about 15-20 but up to 25 is no problem.
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Re: ufo fluttering..normal?

Postby papasmerf » Mon May 03, 2021 4:24 am

jakemoore wrote:
Mon May 03, 2021 3:00 am
I just dont let it bother me. UFO has a pretty good top end too. It makes some noise but isn’t really a problem in too much pull. For me the sweet spot is about 15-20 but up to 25 is no problem.
it was 17-30 out there,,, the 5 was a bit much but still nice though,, i am 198 ish,,, . i had it out in 30+ the week before and just came in and went home,, it was my smallest kite and i was getting worked.

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Re: ufo fluttering..normal?

Postby Matty V » Mon May 03, 2021 7:02 am

papasmerf wrote:
Mon May 03, 2021 12:20 am
Matty V wrote:
Sun May 02, 2021 11:18 pm
Sheeted out fully on a strut less kite and complaining it flaps?

Are u ok hun?
no, i need some damn sympathy. it's my first strutless you cyber bully!
You want what? So you bought a kite with zero advice about one of its fundamental flight characteristics and thats some one else’s fault?

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Re: ufo fluttering..normal?

Postby papasmerf » Tue May 04, 2021 5:25 am

You want what? So you bought a kite with zero advice about one of its fundamental flight characteristics and thats some one else’s fault?
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Re: ufo fluttering..normal?

Postby matanshapira » Tue May 04, 2021 9:24 pm

notice that you should minimize flutter by pulling the bar a bit as it causes more wear to the canopy

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Re: ufo fluttering..normal?

Postby Flyboy » Tue May 04, 2021 10:45 pm

papasmerf wrote:
Sun May 02, 2021 4:53 pm
great session on my 5m ufo yesterday, love that kite.

getting a lot of fluttering though when bar pushed out during a transition, in my case, the kite arcs above me during a gybe, so i sheet out bar to reduce lift. the kite flaps a lot. i am not a fan of downlooping the kite for a gybe as i lose too much speed bringing the kite more overhead to prepare for the down loop, i suspect this is just my technique, the kite works fine when normally powered up, just when i punch that bar out, it starts flapping like crazy when depowered. suggestions?
Don't worry about it.

Are you using it while foiling? I's normal to want to mitigate the power by sheeting out when coming through the turn on a foil. The result is a couple of seconds of flapping until you re-establish back line tension. It also happens with my wave kites when foiling. I don't notice that happening with my SB - presumably because I keep more power (back line tension) in the kite as I gybe.

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Re: ufo fluttering..normal?

Postby papasmerf » Wed May 05, 2021 4:22 am

matanshapira wrote:
Tue May 04, 2021 9:24 pm
notice that you should minimize flutter by pulling the bar a bit as it causes more wear to the canopy
yah,, i know that actually,,, i am so used to punching my bar out from my hyperlink during the turns that it is carrying over when i go down to my 5m lei,,,

bear in mind,, i am not worried about the sound,, i am just wondering about long term damage on the trailing edge,, kind of how a flag looks after a while from the wind.

i guess i just wont' worry about it and power it up more,, i will figure it out. thanks!

the ufo's are amazing kites!
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Re: ufo fluttering..normal?

Postby papasmerf » Wed May 05, 2021 4:27 am

jumptheshark wrote:
Mon May 03, 2021 1:38 am
There there,

You have to learn the feel the kite. Forget looking at it. Feeeeeeel it. Let the energy course through you, tune into it, use the force.

Sheeted just right strutless kites really don't flap much.

They are pretty easy to make flap, but its still rider error. The longer you ride them, the better you get at it.... Unless your out in too much wind for the size kite your on.... then your simply overpowered and that is that.

Short lines help loads to mitigate flapping.
what kites are you jumping with?

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Re: ufo fluttering..normal?

Postby jumptheshark » Wed May 05, 2021 4:35 am

Not strutless ones!


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