RespectFoil wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 6:41 amMy local beach is one of the hardest to get out from to deep water for a long mast pop up and fast start,
heavy waves want to roll you over back to the shallows then roll you over again which of course can cause line slack and the resulting kite drops into nasty turbulent water that rolls you round all over the place, sounds familiar? bloody knightmare.
It took me over 18months to crack it, so hard to learn how to beat the problem of direct onshore winds with overhead breaking waves coming at you from all directions, using my 101 mast was making it harder but then easier once out, as I had to get further out to deeper water for the initial start! but then the long mast was a great help once up, as I needed to stay high up above the next wave crests that were coming towards me fast and hard,
I have great sympathy for anyone having to cope with this in their first year of foiling as I know just how hard it is to master the skill set required to beat the conditions and get out past the rough water to open sea, some try to avoid these conditions and some never master the skill required to beat it.
My tips to make it easier are - use a small board like a 120 or 110 with foot straps front and rear, small board so you can duck under the oncoming breaking waves with your hand gripping hard through the front upper strap whilst your body is hard up against the board and outstretched to act like a rudder for directional stability,footstraps help a lot as without them your feet can more easily be washed off the board but a hard fast wave breaking over the board in the first few seconds of getting going, it helps to have a helmet and peaked cap to deflect the water and make it easier to duck under the waves sets.never try to ride over the top of any of the waves that are breaking, that is bad and often ends in a bad roll over backwards ,
don't go out underpowered, you need power to punch through the powerful fast moving waves going into the beach.
start off by powering up the kite and diving fast forward full body out stretched with board and body locked together as one to gain momentum and get into a rhythm moving forward through the sets and mush, kite pulling forward at around 45deg and small tiny sine wave movements for extra power, not too low and not too high, keep speed up, even slightly leaning over on the board in the flatter bits to keep up forward drive between the crests but not as you dive under or over the next crest as that can roll you over back to shore in a mess.
a foil kite helps a lot getting out, but works against you if you are not 100% at ease with foil kite handling,mixing the two skills together whilst still not an expert in foil kite use is a disaster waiting to happen.
once out past the bigger white water then spot a clear calmer bit of water and very quickly slip feet into straps whilst at the same time starting a quick power stroke to pop you up high and fast, and get going quickly to steer through the mass of white water and confused mess, a tall mast makes this so much easier,
just keep practicing and never give up, its not easy, but once cracked you wonder why you found it so hard to do.
of course the conditions I have described above are not easy and should not be the conditions you have a go at whilst still learning the basics, ok I know I did,and it was hard,with many many failed attempts, better to master easier conditions first.
bkkite wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 8:39 pmSimilar question to people above, what isn't working with body dragging? I've found that going upwind body dragging with a foil is way easier than with a twin tip. If the water is shallow, I just role the board on its side, and then find the sweet spot of where I need to lay on the board in order for it to not go too far up wind, since the foil wants to push up (towards the wind).
It works well enough that I've done it not even laying on the board, just kinda holding on to it with one arm.
It just gets more complicated when you have any kind of significant swell. That's the part that isn't straightforward. Even if it is much more efficient than body dragging with a twin-tip, you have to bodydrag for a much longer distance, until you reach chest deep water. And depending on the profile of your beach, that means you need to get through dozens of waves, each trying to destabilize you and push you back relentlessly, annihilating whatever little progress you had made in the previous 5mn.
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