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Re: looking for bar to foil with

Postby br44 » Sun Aug 01, 2021 3:56 pm

Jyoder wrote:
Sun Aug 01, 2021 1:35 pm
OzBungy wrote:
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Jyoder wrote:
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Minimalism+1
What do you do for a safety system?
Not needed. Too many accidental releases. Foil only, when kite correctly sized, just letting go of the bar is enough.
Seriously?

I would never ever use a bar without a safety system. A full QR system can be added for around 100 grams / 3 oz. The increase in complexity is minimal, and there are no accidental releases. Infexion QR + safety ring from Kite Attitude

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Re: looking for bar to foil with

Postby Tony » Sun Aug 01, 2021 9:29 pm

I've been using the Duotone Click Bar and more recently the Infexion Bar with the seatbelt quick release.
Since using the Infexion bar I have not used the click bar.
Click bar has rear line on-the-fly depower but I rarely used it on the foil.
Infexion has rear line trim adjustment but can't be adjusted while riding.
Infexion safety is built-in, no leash to harness needed and light as a feather.
I have yet to need trim adjustment while riding the infexion, super long bar throw.
Both bars are very clean on the front lines, stopper only.
I prefer the Infexion but the click-bar is also good.
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Re: looking for bar to foil with

Postby OzBungy » Mon Aug 02, 2021 2:58 am

I've had every kind of shackle self release. I wouldn't use a kite without some kind of backup attachment. The other day I bumped my chicken loop twice and it released both times. I was able to re-assemble the loop and hook in without stopping. I was pleased with that. :-)

The early bow kites worked with no additional safety. You just released the bar and the travel of the depower was sufficient. It's still nice to have a leash. I can remember maybe 8 times in 20 years when I've needed some kind of safety leash because of storms or malfunctions of some kind, even with foil kites.

It would be easy enough to do a home build of a Pintxo style tube with a safety line running down the middle of it.

I've experimented with trimless long travel bars. I am tall with long arms and can handle it. My very long trimmer bars are soooooo much more versatile and user-friendly. Maybe a long travel bar with a super simple stop-and-adjust rear line system might work.
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Re: looking for bar to foil with

Postby vakiter » Mon Aug 02, 2021 3:10 am

I like a trim block to set the trim in the right spot , not because I am overpowered. Location of this spot I find very important .

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Re: looking for bar to foil with

Postby ruedorb » Mon Dec 05, 2022 9:03 pm

SolarSet wrote:
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Can you guys point out of any major kite manufactures sells bars similar to these mentioned above?
This is my new idea to an old problem: www.wheeliekite.com
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Re: looking for bar to foil with

Postby Trent hink » Mon Dec 05, 2022 11:48 pm

ruedorb wrote:
Mon Dec 05, 2022 9:03 pm
SolarSet wrote:
Fri Jul 23, 2021 8:09 pm
Can you guys point out of any major kite manufactures sells bars similar to these mentioned above?
This is my new idea to an old problem: www.wheeliekite.com

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My opinion is that this is an interesting idea, but it needs some long rollers on the top and bottom in order to make it plausible.

I might be an outlier, but I don't mind using a bar where the centerline is covered with some sort of plastic; keep it clean and it will slide good, and no raw sides of my fingers from grinding them against the sand-impregnated center line.

If the plastic covering feels sticky, it is not clean, or it needs sensible lubercation.

The sand in my local conditions is so fine, that even if you rinse the lines out after every session, and rinse it out again after every launch, uncovered line won't last long, even at four times the sensible working load.

Uncovered line can last less then a month if I a getting out often.

Back in my day, when you could buy a kite that came with a full-carbon bar included. I sometimes wore the bar out before the kite.

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Re: looking for bar to foil with

Postby IWantToFly » Tue Dec 06, 2022 4:28 am

ruedorb wrote:
Mon Dec 05, 2022 9:03 pm
SolarSet wrote:
Fri Jul 23, 2021 8:09 pm
Can you guys point out of any major kite manufactures sells bars similar to these mentioned above?
This is my new idea to an old problem: www.wheeliekite.com

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I like the idea and the picture I saw on another post. The website needs a little work to show the product!
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Re: looking for bar to foil with

Postby ruedorb » Wed Dec 07, 2022 6:28 pm

IWantToFly wrote:
Tue Dec 06, 2022 4:28 am
ruedorb wrote:
Mon Dec 05, 2022 9:03 pm
SolarSet wrote:
Fri Jul 23, 2021 8:09 pm
Can you guys point out of any major kite manufactures sells bars similar to these mentioned above?
This is my new idea to an old problem: www.wheeliekite.com

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I like the idea and the picture I saw on another post. The website needs a little work to show the product!
Thanks! I am slowly getting my act together. I uploaded a few shots today.

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Re: looking for bar to foil with

Postby merl » Wed Dec 07, 2022 7:11 pm

The bar end is an eye-opener...

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Re: looking for bar to foil with

Postby edt » Wed Dec 07, 2022 7:49 pm

It boggles the mind that people kite with hook knives but refuse to kite with bar floats that only weigh 60 grams each. Bar floats reduce the risk of death loops.

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