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Re: Learning to jump with the foil With a kite, BTW

Postby FLandOBX » Mon Oct 25, 2021 1:58 pm

Here's a discussion on this topic with Slingshot rider, Adam Withington. Tips to avoid injury begin at 3:20. While there isn't any single "right" answer, Adam recommends keeping the board on your feet when crashing. Reasonable minds can differ, of course.

https://video.search.yahoo.com/search/v ... ction=view

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Re: Learning to jump with the foil With a kite, BTW

Postby FLandOBX » Mon Oct 25, 2021 2:03 pm

For a little inspiration, this video never gets old......

https://video.search.yahoo.com/search/v ... ction=view
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Re: Learning to jump with the foil With a kite, BTW

Postby rnelias » Mon Oct 25, 2021 4:24 pm

just another inspiring video ;)

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Re: Learning to jump with the foil With a kite, BTW

Postby geron » Mon May 16, 2022 6:08 pm

I am thinking that I want to jump on hydrofoil with kite and wonder if foot hooks are good? straps much better? I see that it is possible to jmp strapless but are thinking that to learn straps is the way? In both feet or just front? Thanks, any experience with this?

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Re: Learning to jump with the foil With a kite, BTW

Postby deniska » Mon May 16, 2022 7:58 pm

geron wrote:
Mon May 16, 2022 6:08 pm
I am thinking that I want to jump on hydrofoil with kite and wonder if foot hooks are good? straps much better? I see that it is possible to jmp strapless but are thinking that to learn straps is the way? In both feet or just front? Thanks, any experience with this?
Hooks are bad idea.. they just break and you concentrate too much on keeping the foil on..
To chime in on original discussion.. Straight up jumps on foil are pretty safe for same height..
meaning that I feel much safer boosting 13m on 15m foil kite in under 18kts of wind than say going same height on 9m LEI in 28+kts with TT..
The key here, in my view, to go in mellow conditions with a big floaty kite..
If you still not sure about landings, kick off the board at take off
like here

Once you dial smooth landng - keep the board on :-)
if something happens mid-air - with 15m you have 1-2 seconds to make a decision about kicking or keeping the board..
Normally, if I am higher than 5-6meters I kick it off, if I am lower - keep it on foot, unless only one strap is on..
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Re: Learning to jump with the foil With a kite, BTW

Postby Peter_Frank » Mon May 16, 2022 8:02 pm

geron wrote:
Mon May 16, 2022 6:08 pm
I am thinking that I want to jump on hydrofoil with kite and wonder if foot hooks are good? straps much better? I see that it is possible to jmp strapless but are thinking that to learn straps is the way? In both feet or just front? Thanks, any experience with this?

Forget about foot hooks for jumping...

And forget about just front foot in the strap - the way to injury without doubt :roll:

Both feet in straps, and push the board away if something goes wrong.

Agree fully with deniska here :thumb:

8) Peter
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Re: Learning to jump with the foil With a kite, BTW

Postby dave1986 » Mon May 16, 2022 8:20 pm

Peter_Frank wrote:
Mon May 16, 2022 8:02 pm
Forget about foot hooks for jumping...
8) Peter
I disagree. I have a foot hook for my back foot, and V straps at the front. It works very well for jumping, including powered boosting. It gives me the flexibility to foot switch easily as well as boost easily.

When I eventually master tacks with footswitch 100% then I'll move back to read footstraps... but until then I find the rear foot hook to be ideal
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Re: Learning to jump with the foil With a kite, BTW

Postby Peter_Frank » Mon May 16, 2022 8:28 pm

That is not the same as jumping with only a front strap, or two foot hooks for that sake :o
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Re: Learning to jump with the foil With a kite, BTW

Postby Foil » Tue May 17, 2022 7:49 am

use Groove footstraps, not loose! they always release during a bad wipeout, many racers use these straps for good reason, they are called soft straps, fronts are Y one piece, not cheap but superb and well worth it to prevent locked in feet during crash, easy to kick away if take off is completely screwed up,
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