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Moses w740 compared to 679

Postby JoseTumaco » Sun Jan 02, 2022 3:20 am

I would like some comparation only for kiting of this wings, anyone tried both?

I kite in 11 knots, 91 mast, 1.20 board, 70 kg, 12 m Soul and 10m Roam O.R. Aluula kite. Like free riding and jumping.

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Jose

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Re: Moses w740 compared to 679

Postby dave1986 » Sun Jan 02, 2022 9:49 am

Sometimes it can be a mistake to get 2 wings that are not very different and have too similar characteristics. However I think the 679 and 740 will be quite different but also complimentary to each other.
679 being low aspect and has good slow stall speed and good for carving and for underpowered conditions. 740 in contrast is high aspect and a good wing for freerace fast riding and needing a little more power (but not as much power as a full race wing like 670/671).

For a heavier riders I would also say the 633 and 800 would also be very good similar complimentary wings.
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Re: Moses w740 compared to 679

Postby JoseTumaco » Mon Jan 03, 2022 5:53 pm

dave1986 wrote:
Sun Jan 02, 2022 9:49 am
Sometimes it can be a mistake to get 2 wings that are not very different and have too similar characteristics. However I think the 679 and 740 will be quite different but also complimentary to each other.
679 being low aspect and has good slow stall speed and good for carving and for underpowered conditions. 740 in contrast is high aspect and a good wing for freerace fast riding and needing a little more power (but not as much power as a full race wing like 670/671).

For a heavier riders I would also say the 633 and 800 would also be very good similar complimentary wings.
Thanks a lot for your opinion. I am looking for a faster wing, and I am 72 kg. Do you sugest me other wing better than w740? I kite always betwenn 8 and 13 knots with Alula Roam 10 m and Soul 12 m.

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Re: Moses w740 compared to 679

Postby dave1986 » Mon Jan 03, 2022 6:31 pm

JoseTumaco wrote:
Mon Jan 03, 2022 5:53 pm
dave1986 wrote:
Sun Jan 02, 2022 9:49 am
Sometimes it can be a mistake to get 2 wings that are not very different and have too similar characteristics. However I think the 679 and 740 will be quite different but also complimentary to each other.
679 being low aspect and has good slow stall speed and good for carving and for underpowered conditions. 740 in contrast is high aspect and a good wing for freerace fast riding and needing a little more power (but not as much power as a full race wing like 670/671).

For a heavier riders I would also say the 633 and 800 would also be very good similar complimentary wings.
Thanks a lot for your opinion. I am looking for a faster wing, and I am 72 kg. Do you sugest me other wing better than w740? I kite always betwenn 8 and 13 knots with Alula Roam 10 m and Soul 12 m.
All of the race wings W671, W740, and W800 will be a faster than the 679 wing. The smaller wings will have faster speed but less low-end. Personally I would say either the W740 or W800 would be a good choice if you want to go fast but you're not racing.

I think the choice between the 740 and 800 is a difficult one because they're essentially the same wing just in 2 different sizes... I would perhaps lean toward the 740 as best for you though as you're only 70kg. If you were a bit heavier I would say go for the 800.
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Re: Moses w740 compared to 679

Postby Lamilu » Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:28 am

What is the fastest wing for the surf fuselage 710? is it the 679?

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Re: Moses w740 compared to 679

Postby Alysum » Mon Jan 17, 2022 1:09 pm

The 740 and 679/800 are NOT exactly the same design.

I have the 740 and it's almost totally flat (same as the 1110). Whilst the 800 has a lot of gull (same as the 1000). Have not seen a 679 in my hands but from the pics it looks similar with the gull design.

I would be really curious to hear if anyone has compared 740 & 800.

And yes at 70Kg definitely go 740 for speed. The flatter profile is supposed to help with speed and tracking.
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Re: Moses w740 compared to 679

Postby grigorib » Mon Jan 17, 2022 1:23 pm

Lamilu wrote:
Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:28 am
What is the fastest wing for the surf fuselage 710? is it the 679?
I’d say upcoming 699 would be the fastest Moses wing for surf fuselage. 720 is not much faster than 679. It’s more roll stable and has slightly higher lowend, yet it’s thick and not as fast as you’d think it should be. Also it has been discontinued.

Otherwise Slingshot Phantasm 730 would be the fastest wing for Moses surf fuselage.

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Re: Moses w740 compared to 679

Postby sedelito » Mon Jan 17, 2022 5:25 pm

Lamilu wrote:
Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:28 am
What is the fastest wing for the surf fuselage 710? is it the 679?
940 no doubt! It's has really good low end but yet so fast, same AR as 800.
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Re: Moses w740 compared to 679

Postby JoseTumaco » Wed Jan 26, 2022 3:56 am

Thanks everyone. I think w740 is the best option.

What about if we compare Sabfoil w740 (702 cm2),... with RDB wing 730 cm2, has anyone tried both? what do you think about the difference?

THanks

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Re: Moses w740 compared to 679

Postby a99 » Wed Sep 21, 2022 12:46 am

Alysum wrote:
Mon Jan 17, 2022 1:09 pm
The 740 and 679/800 are NOT exactly the same design.

I have the 740 and it's almost totally flat (same as the 1110). Whilst the 800 has a lot of gull (same as the 1000). Have not seen a 679 in my hands but from the pics it looks similar with the gull design.

I would be really curious to hear if anyone has compared 740 & 800.

And yes at 70Kg definitely go 740 for speed. The flatter profile is supposed to help with speed and tracking.
Maybe someone can compare 740 vs 800 who kited on both of them?


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