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Kite for foiling in 20/25 knots

Postby JoseTumaco » Wed Apr 27, 2022 3:05 am

I have a 10m A Roam OR and like it a lot, I use it till 15 knots,... but need a kite for 20/25 knots ¿can you give me your sugestions/advice? Perhaps 6m? Wich brands?
I am 70 kg, Moses 679, like boosting and freeride, not race.
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Re: Kite for foiling in 20/25 knots

Postby evan » Wed Apr 27, 2022 7:56 am

Isn't the 10m perfect for jumping in 20-25kn?
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Re: Kite for foiling in 20/25 knots

Postby leeuwen » Wed Apr 27, 2022 9:50 am

As mentioned above if you really want to boost as high as possible you need to keep using that 10m to at least 20 knots if not more.
I would guess it is certainly doable to ride it up to 25 knots if you have the skill and don't mind riding lit up.

That being said, if you want to jump say 5-10 meters and just cruise around comfortably rather then really powered up a 6m kite will work in those conditions.
Seeing that you currently stop using your 10M at 15 knots the 6m will likely also feel similar if not more powered up in 25 knots.
Do note that, in my experience, a drawback of kites smaller then +- 8M is that they tend to drop you like a stone so you probably need to work on landing skills e.g. heli-loops.
So there is some benefit for bigger kites not only in just gains of height.

Regarding kite type:
The wind is enough that pretty much any kite will work to some degree even 5 struts.
However any all-round 3 strut is probably the best compromise between being able to jump and still having some drift if you do want to chase a wave or go downwind quickly once in a while.
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Re: Kite for foiling in 20/25 knots

Postby marlboroughman » Wed Apr 27, 2022 12:26 pm

Don't get wave kites or kites that fly way upwind. Naish Pivot for example does the job perfect and is similar in behavior to one strut Boxer but it's wave incarnation Slash doesn't work with foil in small sizes for me at all. When you loop it, it charges from one side of the window to the other like a missile. Avoid kites like that especially in small sizes for foiling.
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Re: Kite for foiling in 20/25 knots

Postby DAnderson » Wed Apr 27, 2022 6:33 pm

A smaller alu roam. 8m is quite versatile. 5 is very fun, but too small to boost imo, unlike the 8m.
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Re: Kite for foiling in 20/25 knots

Postby Peter_Frank » Wed Apr 27, 2022 7:47 pm

marlboroughman wrote:
Wed Apr 27, 2022 12:26 pm
Don't get wave kites or kites that fly way upwind. Naish Pivot for example does the job perfect and is similar in behavior to one strut Boxer but it's wave incarnation Slash doesn't work with foil in small sizes for me at all. When you loop it, it charges from one side of the window to the other like a missile. Avoid kites like that especially in small sizes for foiling.

I disagree, a lot.

We are all different and each to their own.

But LEI wavekites are the perfect choice for hydrofoiling, as you dont get overpowered like with a grunty kite with less range.
In fact, the reason I love Peak kites, is the very ability to race across the window and create immediate power on demand (or not, your choice, just choke it)

Whereas grunty kites are a horror on a hydrofoil, IMO useless in fact :o

Slash is a great foil kite, definitely :thumb:

Maybe just different preferences :wink:

8) Peter
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Re: Kite for foiling in 20/25 knots

Postby marlboroughman » Wed Apr 27, 2022 9:05 pm

JoseTumaco wrote:
Wed Apr 27, 2022 3:05 am
boosting and freeride, not race.
Slash with foil becomes go fast kite. No boosting no freeride with kite loops. I loop Pivot and it behaves like Boxer although you have turn downwind to tame it. Slash behaves like a race kite with foil when you loop it. It charges like mad across the wind window. For people who want freeride foil with jumping I haven't tried anything close to Pivot.
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Re: Kite for foiling in 20/25 knots

Postby Peter_Frank » Thu Apr 28, 2022 4:39 am

And yes for boosting high depower fast wave kites are not good.

They excel in all other kitefoil aspects though, as the same characteristics needed.
They don't get overpowered, drift well, turn fast, power on/off on demand.

You can't get it all in one kite.

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Re: Kite for foiling in 20/25 knots

Postby cor » Fri Apr 29, 2022 4:46 pm

You don´t need a new kite. You need to work on your technique. 15 knots is nothing for a 10m. If you really want to boost and not just do little jumps on your foil, you need to learn how control that 10m in 20knots and above and go fast with your foil. Yes, even with 70Kg. I clearly do not recommend to buy a smaller kite unless you want to go even in higher winds or you intentionally want to add (heli-)loops to your jumps. A smaller kite will make everything more comfortable, but it will also add another dimension to your jumps as it will let you drop like a stone in these winds and then you are forced to heliloop. Rather stick with that 10m and learn to control it in these high winds.
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Re: Kite for foiling in 20/25 knots

Postby JoseTumaco » Sat Apr 30, 2022 2:23 am

cor wrote:
Fri Apr 29, 2022 4:46 pm
You don´t need a new kite. You need to work on your technique. 15 knots is nothing for a 10m. If you really want to boost and not just do little jumps on your foil, you need to learn how control that 10m in 20knots and above and go fast with your foil. Yes, even with 70Kg. I clearly do not recommend to buy a smaller kite unless you want to go even in higher winds or you intentionally want to add (heli-)loops to your jumps. A smaller kite will make everything more comfortable, but it will also add another dimension to your jumps as it will let you drop like a stone in these winds and then you are forced to heliloop. Rather stick with that 10m and learn to control it in these high winds.
Thanks a lot for your tip, really appreciate it. The fact is that when I am in 20+ knots the kite gets very powerfull and it is not so gently to control as in 15 knots, so I was thinking the option was changing of kite. I suposse I should go more down wind whe the power blows up, and jumping with more tecnic. Something else?
Thanks

José Luis


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