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Advice for boosting on a foil?

Postby SpaceRacer » Sat Aug 06, 2022 3:49 am

I’ve been kiteboarding and kite foiling for quite some time now and am contemplating learning to boost with a foil. I have a few questions:

1) Any good safety advice for boosting with a foil?
2) I will need a new board. I was told a 120cm board like
the Slingshot Dwarfcraft would be a good board?
3) I have a 91cm Lift mast and a Lift Surf 170 wing and
was told the mast is ok but I will need to drop down to
the Lift 100 Surf V2 wing. If you agree, which size
stabilizer or rear wing should I go with?

Thank you!
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Re: Safety advice for boosting on a foil?

Postby deniska » Sat Aug 06, 2022 4:40 am

if you are not 100% sure about the landing (get into a spin, have a kite in a wrong position, get a foot out of a strap, etc) kick off the foil at the apex of the jump.. if you kick it off just before touching the water, there is a good chance you going to fall right on top of it, which is not good..
also hitting something in the water while sending the kite (damn rays or turtles) will likely to send you into a spin.. I learned that letting go of a bar is the least painful way to land it :-)
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Re: Safety advice for boosting on a foil?

Postby IWantToFly » Sat Aug 06, 2022 6:18 am

deniska wrote:
Sat Aug 06, 2022 4:40 am
I learned that letting go of a bar is the least painful way to “land” it :-)
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Re: Advice for boosting on a foil?

Postby Regis-de-giens » Sat Aug 06, 2022 8:33 am

make it very progressive, low height to learn, in very light wind, say 50 cm then 1 meter, and do a lot of jumps at 1m, 1.5 m , when you minimise your landing speed and your spin, just the time to master your body management and landing method ; start with the biggest kite you have to get more lifting and decrease your downward speed; body very "stiff" in the sky to limit your spin, legs and foil quite high in front of you (abs tensioned)
For a long time I followed above safety recommendation to let the foil go at the apex in case of things getting wrong ; however above 3-4 m you could break you foil , specially fi big surface front wing ; today, more and more, I keep the foil with me a longer time when I am still under minimum control, and either keep it on my foot or let it go when I am closer to the water surface.

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Re: Advice for boosting on a foil?

Postby FLandOBX » Sat Aug 06, 2022 2:44 pm

I'd suggest beginning to boost with your current equipment. No reason to change everything just to begin. You can boost on any foil and any board.

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Re: Advice for boosting on a foil?

Postby cglazier » Sat Aug 06, 2022 2:50 pm

FLandOBX wrote:
Sat Aug 06, 2022 2:44 pm
I'd suggest beginning to boost with your current equipment. No reason to change everything just to begin. You can boost on any foil and any board.
Agreed.
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Re: Advice for boosting on a foil?

Postby evan » Sat Aug 06, 2022 3:08 pm

FLandOBX wrote:
Sat Aug 06, 2022 2:44 pm
I'd suggest beginning to boost with your current equipment. No reason to change everything just to begin. You can boost on any foil and any board.
Are you sure? A 94cm wide wing with 1100cm² surface area feels humongous for jumping and more chances for cracking the fuse or mast by landing on 1 side of the wing first. 500-600cm² race wings are better for this, you also can build more apparent wind and tension to jump higher.

My advice would be to learn to ride a smaller and faster foil first before starting to jump.

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Re: Advice for boosting on a foil?

Postby FLandOBX » Sat Aug 06, 2022 4:43 pm

evan wrote:
Sat Aug 06, 2022 3:08 pm
FLandOBX wrote:
Sat Aug 06, 2022 2:44 pm
I'd suggest beginning to boost with your current equipment. No reason to change everything just to begin. You can boost on any foil and any board.
Are you sure? A 94cm wide wing with 1100cm² surface area feels humongous for jumping and more chances for cracking the fuse or mast by landing on 1 side of the wing first. 500-600cm² race wings are better for this, you also can build more apparent wind and tension to jump higher.

My advice would be to learn to ride a smaller and faster foil first before starting to jump.
I don't disagree with what you're saying, Evan. But most people don't begin boosting huge on hydrofoil. As others have said, we start small and then progress bigger. The OP said he's "contemplating learning to boost with a foil". I guess my advice to the OP is, stop contemplating, just use your current equipment to start the process. Once he progresses to serious boosting, he'll naturally gravitate to the equipment you've described. :thumb:

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Re: Advice for boosting on a foil?

Postby deniska » Mon Aug 08, 2022 5:46 am

if you go for big air, best bang for a buck equipment is Cabrinha AV8...
full carbon, pretty fast.. 1300 new (full setup) or $700-800 used, which is a great deal :-)
it seems to be able to take some abuse.. even if not, yuo can replace it for a price of a carbon mast :-)
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