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Wich tipe of rope for a harness

Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2022 4:16 pm
by JoseTumaco
I foil with rope harness but ropes break in about 20 sessions, wich tipe of ropedo you use?

Thanks

Re: Wich tipe of rope for a harness

Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2022 7:32 pm
by cglazier
5mm Dyneema is ideal. I have over 100 sessions on this equivalent rope from Amazon which is also UHMWPE rope (but not the Dyneema brand). You can't beat getting 15 meters of it inexpensively.
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Re: Wich tipe of rope for a harness

Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2022 7:37 pm
by Herman
I use Sk75 dyneema. 4mm with 4mm insert. I use a roller hook or infexion qr with roller. The runner fails after about a year of hard use. The actual runner section always looks good but the line fails at the spreader bar insertion. The rig I use has a loop with full length insert, a release pin goes through the loop at the back of the spreader. This is the critical wear point. If I ditched the pin and used two knots it would last longer.

Re: Wich tipe of rope for a harness

Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2022 8:34 pm
by Windigo1
Amsteel it's dyneema the trademark is Amsteel by Samson Ropes you can get it in marine supply stores. It's crazy strong.

https://samsonrope.com/mooring/amsteel--blue

Re: Wich tipe of rope for a harness

Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2022 9:09 pm
by kit3surfer
Try to find something from climbing and hiking shops. For them it is lifesafing - so durability wise :thumb:

Re: Wich tipe of rope for a harness

Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2022 12:28 am
by Fatso
kit3surfer wrote:
Sun Sep 25, 2022 9:09 pm
Try to find something from climbing and hiking shops. For them it is lifesafing - so durability wise :thumb:
Agreed, got a bit (2m) of climbing rope from Decathlon and a steel ring, works like a charm, when the outer coating goes it's still very strong but I replace then. Only replaced this year after 3 years. Total cost like 10 euros.

Re: Wich tipe of rope for a harness

Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2022 8:35 am
by ieism
I do not agree with climbing rope being better. Im a climber too.
They typically do not use dyneema in climbing ropes, sometimes in slings. Dyneema is really slick so it slides better giving less wear. There are dyneema ropes with a nylon sleeve for wear, but I prefer to use pure dyneema for rope harness as well. If you are breaking rope in 20 sessions something else is wrong. It last well over 100 sessions for me.

I just made a bar with Liros Depower line, that would probably be my choice. They even sell an outer shell that prevents wear separately.

Re: Wich tipe of rope for a harness

Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2022 10:27 am
by evan
I use 4mm Dyneema doubled (spliced) so you wear out the outer one first. Gives a visible clue of when the rope has worn too much and you can still ride back to shore on the inner rope when you completely destroy the outer one.

Re: Wich tipe of rope for a harness

Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2022 11:10 am
by Herman
If you are not using a loop it might be helpful to use a grey outer and coloured inner to see the wear more easily. Sounds like the op needs to de burr the spreader, or perhaps more likely, change the slider to a roller or low friction ring? Don’t over tighten a replacement rope as this can greatly increase tension and therefore wear at the spreader bar insertion.

Re: Wich tipe of rope for a harness

Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2022 3:54 pm
by rnelias
JoseTumaco wrote:
Sun Sep 25, 2022 4:16 pm
I foil with rope harness but ropes break in about 20 sessions, wich tipe of ropedo you use?

Thanks
just change to a friction ring and your rope will last much more.

I've been using a nylon friction ring, made in a latch by a friend and replaced the dyneema rope for one with a kind of cover around. dyneema ropes are supposed to resist traction and do not like friction :)

This set up must have about 50 sessions now
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