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grove skate pro with Armstrong/Axis HA wings

Postby fun2kite » Wed Oct 12, 2022 3:19 am

anyone using Grove Skate Pro board with any Armstrong HA wings like 925 ?

Do the rails on grove skate go forward enough to accommodate Armstrong HA wings which typically require a more forward position of the mast ?

Please share your experience.

Same question for Axis ART wings ? Do those rails work or need more forward space?

If needs more forward room, please share how much ? Ordering a new grove skate and may have a chance to ask to move rails forward if needed.


Thank you in advance.


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Re: grove skate pro with Armstrong/Axis HA wings

Postby Allarounder » Sun Oct 16, 2022 10:15 pm

Try to ask on the Armstrong/ Axis Facebook groups

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Re: grove skate pro with Armstrong/Axis HA wings

Postby Peter_Frank » Mon Oct 17, 2022 8:19 am

fun2kite wrote:
Wed Oct 12, 2022 3:19 am
anyone using Grove Skate Pro board with any Armstrong HA wings like 925 ?

Do the rails on grove skate go forward enough to accommodate Armstrong HA wings which typically require a more forward position of the mast ?

Please share your experience.

Same question for Axis ART wings ? Do those rails work or need more forward space?

If needs more forward room, please share how much ? Ordering a new grove skate and may have a chance to ask to move rails forward if needed.


Thank you in advance.


https://www.groovekiteboards.it/portfol ... -skatepro/


https://www.armstrongfoils.com/ha925/
Curious now.

How do you know they require a more forward mast position?
Are the mast located more forward on the fuselage?

And more forward compared to exactly which other foil(s)?

Info from their website, friends, or?

Asking, as when looking at the wing it is not swept backward like many "wave" wings are.
Which means the geometrical COE is even more forward on the Axis, meaning the mast should be a tad more rear on the board, and not more forward.

it could also be their trim, the complete Axis foil that is, if they have very little stab or very little down angle/force - then you also need the mast further forward for same trim/feet position.
Or if the profile is more flat (low cambered), it will not need the same amount of stab compensation, and mast might need to be a tad further forward.

Interesting :naughty:

8) Peter

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Re: grove skate pro with Armstrong/Axis HA wings

Postby tkaraszewski » Mon Oct 17, 2022 10:28 am

> How do you know they require a more forward mast position?

For Armstrong, this is part of their "forward geometry" feature which I actually think makes sense for wing and SUP boards, but you can see in the video here, that almost all of the riders have their rear foot noticeably behind the mast:



Also, I own one for wingfoiling and it does need to be more forward compared to most other foils I've tried.

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Re: grove skate pro with Armstrong/Axis HA wings

Postby Kamikuza » Mon Oct 17, 2022 11:04 am

fun2kite wrote:
Wed Oct 12, 2022 3:19 am
Same question for Axis ART wings ? Do those rails work or need more forward space?
IIRC the Black fuse is longer in front of the mast and they need to be moved back on the board...


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