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Postby Dkite » Sat Feb 04, 2023 6:58 pm
I have the Slingshot Phantasm 633 foil.
Now to upgrade it a little I had bought a Sabfoil 679 frontwing.
It rides decent with the Slingshot PS 400 stabilizer which has the following specs:
SURFACE AREA (cm2) = 281
SPAN (mm) = 400
CHORD (mm) = 88
ASPECT RATIO = 5.9
What would be the best stabilizer for this setup?
And can I mount Sabfoil/Moses stabilizers on the Phantasm Fuselage?
If not the only other alternative is the Slingshot PS 325 stabilizer with the following specs:
SURFACE AREA (cm2) = 212
SPAN (mm) = 325
CHORD (mm) = 76
ASPECT RATIO = 5.3
Here's my setup:
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Postby grigorib » Sat Feb 04, 2023 7:07 pm
Since Slingshot chose Phantasm stabilizer to be incompatible with Moses/Sabfoil hole spacing it doesn’t leave you with many choices.
I have several friends who’ve been riding 683s/679 with Moses 425 stabilizer (good old one, not the thing they released later). Yet personally I don’t like that combo - I feel it’s lacking stability.
I used to ride mine with 483/450 stabilizers and they worked well. What you have now is similar to 483.
I feel larger kitefoil wings work better with rather large stabilizer. It matters way less for winging application though.
You can take a file and extend Moses stabilizer holes a bit to make them fit Phantasm fuselage, but I can’t think of any Moses stabilizer to recommend. I recommend RDB 310 cm² to folks riding 483/450 but not sure you’d want to deal with stretching the mount holes.
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Postby Peter_Frank » Sat Feb 04, 2023 8:38 pm
I would personally choose the 325 which is 212 cm2.
Ride a similar frontwing with a 170 cm2 stab myself.
But each to their own regarding stab size, I know.
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Postby Dkite » Wed Feb 08, 2023 11:09 am
I decided to order the PS325 (212cm2) stab from Slingshot.
Its on backorder so I wont get it until spring, I'll update this when I get to try it.
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