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Re: Super cheap but good board - board prices are insane

Postby Flyboy » Sat Jan 13, 2024 12:27 am

NNOwind wrote:
Fri Jan 12, 2024 4:41 pm
tkaraszewski wrote:
Thu Jan 11, 2024 6:20 pm
Waterstarting that looks like a pain.


Video unfortunately only with sabfoil, but there is no difference
that was the first one, now it has become easy
Sure, it works in pea soup ... but how about in water? :-?

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Re: Super cheap but good board - board prices are insane

Postby grigorib » Sat Jan 13, 2024 4:07 pm

Board area really helps in light wind, when popping right on the wing is a delicate issue. Doable on my 80cm Microchip, yet much easier with a large 100cm Dwarfcraft Micro for sure

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Re: Super cheap but good board - board prices are insane

Postby Oldman_Dave » Sun Jan 14, 2024 7:42 am

airsail wrote:
Fri Jan 12, 2024 8:35 pm
I have the Naish Microchip, it’s only really usable in stronger wind as you need to be up on the foil immediately, no taxiing. You also need to use a larger area foil wing, this allows you to pivot from water start to foiling without taxi.
After trying all the combos of boards and foils and ultra light foil kites and all the rest, if my 12m single strut can't get me out of the water on my microchip and Triton then it's too low to be worth bothering anyway.

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Re: Super cheap but good board - board prices are insane

Postby Oldman_Dave » Sun Jan 14, 2024 7:46 am

lifeinthehood wrote:
Fri Jan 12, 2024 9:44 pm

I have the Naish Microchip as well and it took me quite a few sessions to get used to waterstarting. But even after I got that down, it has almost zero forgiveness in touching water. If it touches the water surface at all you're going in. In choppy conditions this was kind of annoying.

At first I thought it was just the length that made it challenging. But later I got an 81.32 cm (32") board from SRFC2AIR that was extremely easy to ride. It recovers quite well too. There are two major differences that I think make it a lot easier. 1) It's wider - 39 cm (vs 34 cm) and 2) it has a decent nose rocker (at least 2"). Bit of a shame that Naish hasn't tweaked the design a bit to make it both travel friendly AND easy to ride.
On the other hand Triton engineered a slight nose up with the T1 and I haven't tripped over the nose in literally years. And I ride a 75cm mast in waves, lumpy ocean conditions, you name it. Bounces right off the surface every time.

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Re: Super cheap but good board - board prices are insane

Postby tkaraszewski » Sun Jan 14, 2024 7:46 pm

I wonder if the Naish Macrochip would be a good dock start/pump foil board. I think the microchip might be too small for the relatively forward position that giant pump wings require you to stand in.

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Re: Super cheap but good board - board prices are insane

Postby lifeinthehood » Sun Jan 14, 2024 9:20 pm

Oldman_Dave wrote:
Sun Jan 14, 2024 7:46 am
lifeinthehood wrote:
Fri Jan 12, 2024 9:44 pm

I have the Naish Microchip as well and it took me quite a few sessions to get used to waterstarting. But even after I got that down, it has almost zero forgiveness in touching water. If it touches the water surface at all you're going in. In choppy conditions this was kind of annoying.

At first I thought it was just the length that made it challenging. But later I got an 81.32 cm (32") board from SRFC2AIR that was extremely easy to ride. It recovers quite well too. There are two major differences that I think make it a lot easier. 1) It's wider - 39 cm (vs 34 cm) and 2) it has a decent nose rocker (at least 2"). Bit of a shame that Naish hasn't tweaked the design a bit to make it both travel friendly AND easy to ride.
On the other hand Triton engineered a slight nose up with the T1 and I haven't tripped over the nose in literally years. And I ride a 75cm mast in waves, lumpy ocean conditions, you name it. Bounces right off the surface every time.
Sure but it has much bigger surface area as well - 86 x 39 cm, like my SRFC2AIR board. Have you tried the Microchip? I got used to it and CAN ride it. I just don't see much benefit for that loss of touchdown forgiveness.

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Re: Super cheap but good board - board prices are insane

Postby kajuk » Mon Jan 15, 2024 7:52 pm

I have a Macrochip board. It is 20cm longer so possibly it makes the difference. I also had initial struggles with waterstarts but once I figured it out I liked it a lot. No problems with touchdowns and it is even possible to ride away after jumps - I'm a beginner jumper so not that good at riding away after jumps in general. When jumping with a LEI kite I ride away ~50%. Didn't try it with a foil kite yet.

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Re: Super cheap but good board - board prices are insane

Postby Oldman_Dave » Tue Jan 16, 2024 8:46 am

lifeinthehood wrote:
Sun Jan 14, 2024 9:20 pm
Oldman_Dave wrote:
Sun Jan 14, 2024 7:46 am
lifeinthehood wrote:
Fri Jan 12, 2024 9:44 pm

I have the Naish Microchip as well and it took me quite a few sessions to get used to waterstarting. But even after I got that down, it has almost zero forgiveness in touching water. If it touches the water surface at all you're going in. In choppy conditions this was kind of annoying.

At first I thought it was just the length that made it challenging. But later I got an 81.32 cm (32") board from SRFC2AIR that was extremely easy to ride. It recovers quite well too. There are two major differences that I think make it a lot easier. 1) It's wider - 39 cm (vs 34 cm) and 2) it has a decent nose rocker (at least 2"). Bit of a shame that Naish hasn't tweaked the design a bit to make it both travel friendly AND easy to ride.
On the other hand Triton engineered a slight nose up with the T1 and I haven't tripped over the nose in literally years. And I ride a 75cm mast in waves, lumpy ocean conditions, you name it. Bounces right off the surface every time.
Sure but it has much bigger surface area as well - 86 x 39 cm, like my SRFC2AIR board. Have you tried the Microchip? I got used to it and CAN ride it. I just don't see much benefit for that loss of touchdown forgiveness.
I have 4 boards under 100cm and the microchip is my go to, it's perfect. The T1 brings the touchdown forgiveness. I recently tried to buy another 2nd hand just to have a spare.
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Re: Super cheap but good board - board prices are insane

Postby geokite » Wed Jan 17, 2024 12:42 am

NNOwind wrote:
Thu Jan 11, 2024 5:41 pm
Exactly, so why not build it yourself
The opening in the board just seems like an accident waiting to happen with an ankle. Maybe that risk is the appeal.

Surprised I haven't seen a large balance board used for a kiteboard. I looked around on craigslist once, didn't really find anything worth the time and money.

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Re: Super cheap but good board - board prices are insane

Postby 1234567Simon » Sat Jan 20, 2024 11:26 am

https://takoon.com/collections/pump-foil/products/pump
93x40cm
10liter

1,8kg :o :o

400 euro

Looks nice,
Some nose rocker

No Straps...
Otherwise I would buy it immediately!
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