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Which wing setup for learning the tack / 360

Postby northandcold » Thu Dec 07, 2023 8:52 am

Which setup (Wing, fuse, stab) is best for maneuvers through/into the wind (heel to toe, toe to heel and 360)?

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Re: Which wing setup for learning the tack / 360

Postby StellaBlu » Thu Dec 07, 2023 3:34 pm

As long as the foil has some glide, you should be fine to learn tacks. Even low aspect foils can tack, but its a slightly different technique. The only thing to avoid is a foil with too much span. Span generally makes it harder to turn/roll, and you risk ventilating the tips.

If I had to give you numbers, I would say something around a 7-8 AR (assuming the span is below ~900). Hard to give area without knowing your weight.
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Re: Which wing setup for learning the tack / 360

Postby bragnouff » Thu Dec 07, 2023 8:22 pm

Yes, any foil can work, -once you can do them-. But while learning, you notice clear improvements whenever you reduce the drag. More glide and less drag will give you some more time to cover the sloppiness of your technique. The more speed you can carry through the transition, the better the outcome. And you still want some maneuverability to actually turn. Typically a smaller stab improves those points, but main thing is to be comfortable enough on that setup.
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Re: Which wing setup for learning the tack / 360

Postby anotheroldguy » Sat Dec 09, 2023 2:30 am

Tacks and 360s are super easy on the TRITON T1 because you can go as slow as you want and it turns with zero effort.

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Re: Which wing setup for learning the tack / 360

Postby balticswell » Sat Dec 09, 2023 8:23 am

Regarding the wing, yes, low/mid aspect is the best as they are way more maneuverable. Theyr glide capabilities can be compensated by speed.
I'd say most important thing is the right kite - the one that flyes further to the edge of the windwindow is the best (ramair kites are easiest to tack). And of course the right techniq (sheet out during the tack is essential, as the kite pulls you up from the board). I found wave orianted kites are much harder to tack as they do not generate much uplift and pull you downwind from your board.
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Re: Which wing setup for learning the tack / 360

Postby Peter_Frank » Sat Dec 09, 2023 11:45 am

northandcold wrote:
Thu Dec 07, 2023 8:52 am
Which setup (Wing, fuse, stab) is best for maneuvers through/into the wind (heel to toe, toe to heel and 360)?

Is this a kitefoil or wingfoil question?

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Re: Which wing setup for learning the tack / 360

Postby northandcold » Sat Dec 09, 2023 1:03 pm

Is this a kitefoil or wingfoil question?
Kitefoil.
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Re: Which wing setup for learning the tack / 360

Postby Janus » Mon Dec 11, 2023 3:21 pm

In that case I dare to say it is more important to have a kite which flies nicely to the edge / overhead, be powerd up (foil wise, not TT wise)
There a lots of nice vids around, don't take your speed front wing, take a 800cm2 (would be my choice of my setup; 600, 800 & 1200))
Now I can tack with my Peak4 but it was not possible to learn it with them.. with my Souls it was "easy" to learn.
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