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Kitefoil through whitewash and breaking waves

Postby Gerwinnaar » Sat Dec 23, 2023 3:23 pm

Hi,
With stronger wind, especially with more on shore then side shore, i have some trouble kitefoiling through whitewash and/or just going over a breaking wave.

The foil starts to resonate and i loose control.

Is the only option to navigate around or are there any tips/techniques to have a better control when going through whitewash?

I kitefoil with North scoop, Gong new curve s&m, 95cm alu v2 mast.
Thanks!
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Re: Kitefoil through whitewash and breaking waves

Postby alekbelia » Sat Dec 23, 2023 5:11 pm

If you've already reached whitewater, then you've outgrown that hydrofoil.
I owned a hydrofoil that at 40km/h went into a similar mode of very strong vibration. The first time it happened was right when I was riding a wave.

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Re: Kitefoil through whitewash and breaking waves

Postby PugetSoundKiter » Sat Dec 23, 2023 6:06 pm

It can be challenging when the foil is moving thru a uniform density medium of water to a mixed medium of water & air with turbulence.
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Re: Kitefoil through whitewash and breaking waves

Postby Peter_Frank » Sat Dec 23, 2023 9:39 pm

Whitewash is really hard on any foil, kitefoil or wingfoil....

You can feel everything vibrate and you are thinking all the time "will I drop off the foil or crash in an odd way?".

This is normal, and happens with all foils big or small.

You can for a starter try to navigate around the whitewash - but later you will find you CAN actually ride pretty okay through it.

So with experience you will be able to ride A Okay in this - although it feels "odd", agree :naughty:

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Re: Kitefoil through whitewash and breaking waves

Postby 1234567Simon » Sat Dec 23, 2023 11:01 pm

I try to NOT put Pressure on the Foil

, so Lots of weight on the Kite,
No upwind,
Vertical Mast....

Mostly I try to avoid whitewater.

Depending, on how much whitewater or Just turbulences from the Wave, the Foil actually does a good Job, but the Feeling IS scary.

Even WAY WAY BEHIND a Jetski you can feel the Turbulences
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Re: Kitefoil through whitewash and breaking waves

Postby Gerwinnaar » Sun Dec 24, 2023 8:32 pm

alekbelia wrote:
Sat Dec 23, 2023 5:11 pm
If you've already reached whitewater, then you've outgrown that hydrofoil.
I owned a hydrofoil that at 40km/h went into a similar mode of very strong vibration. The first time it happened was right when I was riding a wave.
I don’t think I understand your comment

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Re: Kitefoil through whitewash and breaking waves

Postby alekbelia » Sun Dec 24, 2023 9:06 pm

Gerwinnaar wrote:
Sun Dec 24, 2023 8:32 pm
I don’t think I understand your comment
Some hydrofoils at certain speeds or water densities can resonate. When the resonance frequency is low, the foil suddenly becomes unstable.
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Re: Kitefoil through whitewash and breaking waves

Postby jakemoore » Mon Dec 25, 2023 2:45 am

There are definitely foils that are better for whitewater. I have not ridden the Gong. I would say a few exercises to try with the foil are to try to trace the surface with the foil riding flat in flat water. And try a 360 with a breached wingtip. If the foil sucks air and falls in an easy controlled ventilation like this then white water will be tough.
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Re: Kitefoil through whitewash and breaking waves

Postby jakemoore » Mon Dec 25, 2023 3:03 am

As far as dealing with whitewater I think if it’s easy to go around I almost always will. It’s easy to make up lost headway with the foil. Sometimes you have to go through.

So a question is can you cross a whitewater with a strapless surfboard. The motion is similar. I like to put the kite high, power it up to float and dive it as the white water passes.

The scoop board should be a nice shape for this purpose so don’t be afraid to use it. I will usually let the top of the wave lick the board. Keep the board angle of attack the same as when you are riding. As the wave passes you end up on foil again. You don’t want to be too high as the wave passes or you breach.
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Re: Kitefoil through whitewash and breaking waves

Postby Adventure Logs » Mon Dec 25, 2023 6:47 am

While riding over whitewater, crouch some to lower your center of gravity and try to keep your legs as loose as possible. Will help with balance and being thrown off the board.
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