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Re: Light wind Foil Kites

Postby white boy » Sat Jan 06, 2024 1:34 am

Peter_Frank wrote:
Fri Jan 05, 2024 10:56 pm
I think a light 10 or 11 m2 onestrut will do the trick for your 70 kg and big foils.

Easier in lulls turns better and much better upper end than your 14 m2 and could have almost or the same lowend.

8) Peter
Peter, I was thinking perhaps a North Code Zero 11m?

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Re: Light wind Foil Kites

Postby rnelias » Sat Jan 06, 2024 1:58 am

white boy wrote:
Fri Jan 05, 2024 11:36 am
Guys,

Yes I am looking for an LEI kite. I weigh 75kg and have both Duotone 1250 Spirt Surf and 950 Spirt Carve foils.

My EVO SLS 12m is too heavy in light winds and my Juice 14m is only for very very light winds and works for me.

I’m looking for something in the 10-14 kn range.

Thanks
Ant
I'm 75kg like you and my front wing is 950cm^2 (F-One IC6). My local spot has winds ranging from 8-14k. My mostly used kite for foiling was a Boxer 9m that I recently changed to an UFO 9m. With this Boxer it's possible to start in 8k and I don't consider myself an experienced rider.

I have not flown the UFO 9m too much yet and can't say if it will cover the same low-end of the Boxer.
white boy wrote:
Sat Jan 06, 2024 1:34 am
Peter, I was thinking perhaps a North Code Zero 11m?
A bigger 1-struct will give you just a tiny low-end but you'll loose more in the high-end. 1-structs, at least the Boxer, get over powered soon

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Re: Light wind Foil Kites

Postby grigorib » Sat Jan 06, 2024 2:12 am

white boy wrote:
Fri Jan 05, 2024 11:36 am
Guys,

Yes I am looking for an LEI kite. I weigh 75kg and have both Duotone 1250 Spirt Surf and 950 Spirt Carve foils.

My EVO SLS 12m is too heavy in light winds and my Juice 14m is only for very very light winds and works for me.

I’m looking for something in the 10-14 kn range.

Thanks
Ant
At your weight and on those foils you should be able to ride a 7m UFO in 10-14 knots. If you want extra power - a 10m or 9m UFO would work great too yet might not be as lively as the 7m

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Re: Light wind Foil Kites

Postby Peter_Frank » Sat Jan 06, 2024 10:53 am

rnelias wrote:
Sat Jan 06, 2024 1:58 am
Snip...

A bigger 1-struct will give you just a tiny low-end but you'll loose more in the high-end. 1-structs, at least the Boxer, get over powered soon
Hi rnelias - off topic, but have been meaning to ask you;

How come you write "struct" instead of the for kites used defintion "strut"???

At first I thought it was simply a mobile or computer spell corrector going wrong, but now I see you write struct always?

A struct is the codename for "structure" where "struct" can define a group of different variables, often used in C or Python programming languages.
And is as such not a physical thing to my knowledge, not even in other languages.

Whereas a strut is a physical rod, either in a car suspension, or supporting and stiffening airplane wings, and similar.
Meaning most often they have a job in regards to reinforce either in compression or elongation or both.

They are supporting and strengthening and stiffening.

Which is why they are called struts in a kite, having strut bladders inside.

Of course one could also call them "inflatable batten(s)", as this is what they are, true.
But a lot easier with "strut(s)", especially when you have to distinguish and write "a 3 strut kite" and so on :rollgrin:

8) Peter

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Re: Light wind Foil Kites

Postby Wolf of Ainsdale » Sat Jan 06, 2024 11:12 am

7m ufo will get you down to 10 knots. I'm 80kg and have been down to 12 knots comfortably on big wing 1150 north sonar. Brilliant kite for foiling and imo the smaller the kite the more fun flying it.

Brilliant kites. V3 out in Feb so some v2 should be knocking about at a good price point.

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Re: Light wind Foil Kites

Postby 1234567Simon » Sat Jan 06, 2024 11:19 am

With 75 kg I would suggest a 9 Meter Ultra for 10-15 knots.

why 9 Meter

My 10meter IS my Session saver for 6/7 knots (struggeling) Up to 12
But from 9 knots I Like my 8m... At 12knots it IS FANTASTIC!


The ultra feels Like a normal Kite!

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Re: Light wind Foil Kites

Postby rnelias » Sat Jan 06, 2024 11:45 am

Peter_Frank wrote:
Sat Jan 06, 2024 10:53 am
Hi rnelias - off topic, but have been meaning to ask you;

How come you write "struct" instead of the for kites used defintion "strut"???
My native language is (Brazilian) portuguese where the word "structure" translates to "estrutura" (yes, pretty close) which are the parts that forms a frame to support something bigger, like inflatable parts to support a canopy. I think the word "structure" has the same meaning in English too, based on a quick Google images search. Moreover, it's common in English to cut parts of the words like in "bro" instead of "brother" (the first example that came to my mind) and thought struct could be the shorter version for "structure". I didn't even know that "strut" was a word 😂😂😂

Btw, in Brazil we say 1 "tala" (batten), 2 "talas" (battens), etc...

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Re: Light wind Foil Kites

Postby Peter_Frank » Sat Jan 06, 2024 12:33 pm

Aaah, that explains rnelias :thumb:

I am from the aviation industry, and used to the word strut which is what supports the wings on say a Cessna.

But had to check further if other uses because you used struct so consistently.

And found the word strut is the center rod of car suspensions also, probably recognised by most technical people.

So you also use the shortest possible word in Portuguese, "tala", makes sense :D


Eventhough I dislike why most call a kite (or sail or wing) for a "12 meter" :(
Which it hardly never is, but a 12 squaremeter.

Oddly, as in Danish we dont say a 12 meter but 12 kvadratmeter (=squaremeter).
If we talk about a size in short daily language, we shorten it to "a 12" instead of "a 12 meter".

Some kites, and foil, can have the same number in span as their area - thus VERY confusing when not putting the correct unit on the numbers :wink:

8) Peter

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Re: Light wind Foil Kites

Postby white boy » Sun Jan 07, 2024 5:17 am

Team,

Many thanks have narrowed it down it a UFO 9 or 11m for the foil, but just wanted to get a feeling of using with a directional board. There is no surf where I live but wind chop as the wind picks up and either I’m on the directional board of the foil

Many Thanks
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Re: Light wind Foil Kites

Postby 1234567Simon » Sun Jan 07, 2024 2:10 pm

Airush ultra works quite nice on a directional

Goes far to the windwindow Side, goes goes upwind,
And Jumps OK... The 8 also pretty good for Wave riding, the 10 is really big.


For the UFO I do Not know.


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