Indeed I think we are all agree : camber evolution with rider action on the bar depends on kite design and will not be impacted by Malabar. Just another remark : Malabar correct functionning requires that tension in A bridles is higher than in Z bridles, so that Z will not pull on A bridles up to
@Kite-expert: I have two humble additional comments:
- I think you will actually never reach 0 tension in Z bridles in real ride configuration, since trim stroke is limited (and especially on bigger kites). And even if you add stroke for more tension release abilities (like Malabar or longer trim strap for example), you will still catch a little tension due to drag on rear lines. Hence Zero tension is never a functional point in real water-ride conditions. In that configuration with a Tension >0 , Malabar will add some control and depower (since Z tension will be only half of the permanent tension on rear line imposed by drag).
- minimum AoA is not only a kite design parameter and also depends on wind configuration: the acceptable AoA can be closer to zero if the wind is regular (or if the kite B&C bridles are shorten for "stable" configuration), while you need to increase a bit this AoA to avoid frontstalls if the wind is gusty (or if B&C bridles are extended a bit for "power" configuration). So as I tried to say previously "playing" with the minimum AoA when bar is fully pulled (e.g. using trim strap or taking care of bar pulling stroke) can still be useful, depending on rider's preferences, ride conditions and skills (to avoid instabilities). We certainly agree, it may be just a different way of presenting things.
foilholio wrote:I am keen to try it. Will let you know after I have.
I'm thrilled to hear from it ! Some others tips I was thinking to, before you try:
- some length adjustment knots shall be located to allow for ABCZ alignment after Malabar installation. For example on B&C which is the most simple.
- I would add a "floating" "8" knot on the new C pulley line (SPL) near the connection with A knot. This might be useful if you notice a problem for reverse relaunch (by relocating this knot closer to the pulley and thus limit Z bridle excursion). You can more easily try this mitigation without dismantling the Malabar if the 8 knot is already done somewhere on the SPL.
- for my Malabar on the 19m, I re-used the existing pulleys and SPL of the previous mixer. Otherwise you can fully build the new speed system mounted in Malabar (with new pulleys + SPL + connection line of C pulley on rear lines) to "easy"
swap from one to the other .
- just remember to take a photo of your existing ABCZ alignement (or not) to reproduce the same (obvious, sorry but you should not forget to compare properly)