LoL, if wingtips fold and do not recover it makes using kite miserable. Folding and flapping wingtips ruin kite performance as well.
Ok what you mean is the wingtips are collapse, I thought you were just saying the airfoil had a fold or kink in it. But anyway 3 bridle rows is not going to cause the tips to collapse, not at all. There is likely more design to get 3 rows to work well but that does not mean they don't work.
In some old Speed4dlx's fold can be seen through the kite from wingtip to wingtip, again because of lack of bridle support with decreased inner pressure.
So you are talking about a fold in the airfoil. f*** it is not clear at all what you are talking about. Folds in the airfoil are common, even for highly bridled things like paragliders. PA change like which also the speed4dlx does also cause folds across the entire kite. Maybe that is what you are getting confused about. You have been over educated of what flying things should or should not be or do.
Weird shapes in kites due to bad mixer settings or slacking line rows are best called just deformations, distorsions, folds or lumps etc.. Useful camber line in airfoil or wing is much more uniform and clean by its shape.
Semantics and opinion. Mine is bridles can pull things that are not weird and are clean. They are certainly not lumps but quite smooth deflections.
kitexpert wrote:Mixer don't "ramp" any camber to kite
Certainly do. Maybe you don't understand the word ramp.
Much better flying kite than kite which is tweaked to higher camber is achieved if kite is originally designed for that higher camber.
Not at all that would be a horrible kite, something a tube designer would come up with. Much better to design a kite with lower camber so it depowers quite stably and then pull camber in with the bridles.
One of the biggest LEI advantages over foil kites is how clean (upper) surface they have.
They don't have a clean upper surface it flaps all over the town, bottom surface does it too.
However last racing LEI kites were quite effective, like Airush VXR
HAHA is that a joke? Airush? What a shit brand and designs.
kitexpert wrote:Good luck to boost over 30m with Pansh Genesis
Could just use the new Aeolus instead.
yes a depower kite is a kite that can cange its AoA without affecting (to much) the camber
Depends on the kite, they change camber to varying degrees. A15 for example changes it alot. Modification can increase or decrease the camber ramping.
but I must (gently ) say that I am sorry to say that Foilholio is either wring or has not understood my point
No I do understand it. You are looking at things geometrically as in the physical limits. Where as I am stating tension. They are both valid it is just I think tension is the baser principle. The reason being nothing is truly rigid on these kites.
look at every (proved) mixer test : non relies on tension, but only on pure geometrical length
I suggest you try a mixer test with no tension. Just randomly through the lines on the ground and make your adjustments.
The sketch of PugetSoundKiter shows it very well : the AoA change is based on displacement of bridles A vs B vs C vs Z , not on tension in the bridles (at all)
Well next time to avoid tension, try fly your kite with no wind and demonstrate the AoA change.
because during a reverse relaunch, you pull on rear lines with more tension than front line
And there it is you just proved my argument. Tension is the baser principle.