Very excited about trying the kite foiling.foilholio wrote: ↑Fri Feb 07, 2020 1:55 pmInteresting. If reverse launching works then that is good. The reason it wouldn't have worked would be because you couldn't get enough tension onto the rear of the kite, tension becomes divided between B and Z. If relaunch is still good this modification should work very well on the A15 and should then also work on most other foils. I will test it out.
It is actually quite exciting given the possible change to the kite. The shorter throw is the big one, giving more more turn and more response. The other thing is the ratio becomes 321 which is better for performance. I should be able to take my A15 mod to 1 pulley on B with this. It could make the Pyscho4 turn faster than any LEI.
Looking at how you have done the mod it is a quite smart use of the lines. I would change connecting everything through the pulley's loop though as that could break.
If any one wants to try he has doubled over the Z main to connect the C main and rear line. C Pulley is also connected there. C pulley line connects to the Z bridles through the C pulley onto either the B bridles or larks above the B main/bridle join.
You might also want to try disconnecting the Z tip bridle or removing it to get some more performance and better relaunch.
4m I think would be too big for foiling in 40knots at your weight, 2m might be more appropriate, 3m definitely.S2000kitesurfer wrote: I've just ordered a 4/6m 2x kites £175 .
They will also be getting the mod .
That means I will have 4/6/10 Genesis
8/10 aurora2 plus 12m soul. At 65kgs
4 to 40 knots foiling for days .
You certainly do, I would guess you helped inspire this?Regis-de-giens wrote: I found it and implemented first I think just for ego reward
Less camber is usually better L/D. Needless to say it needs to be tested.Regis-de-giens wrote: 2- this leads to indeed a 1:2:3 speed system (while the true Malabar maintains the 1:2:4 "standard" mixer ; personally I do not see advantages for that (theoretically again) : globally , compared to a "standard " foil kite, this means that it will pull more on B and C vs other kites WHEN YOU SHEET IN ; we cannot summarize by more or less performance : but rather that performance ( in the l/D ratio meaning of course)
It will only have less stability if you choose to have the same camber sheeted in. So you will lose something, either camber or stability.Regis-de-giens wrote: For example, sheet-in = less (relative) camber ; sheet out = more (relative) camber ; this means less stability at zenith sheet-out (it is a shame)
Maybe, it needs to be tested. It is not a massive change in camber.Regis-de-giens wrote: overall I think it is in detriment of the wind range and front stall stability
Well it is not less agile than a standard mixer. For every 4bar a standard mixer moves Z4 C2 B1, this does Z6 C4 B2. There is just so much more movement that a comparison on agility is not fair to the standard mixer. There is though a delay caused by the extra force required at the bar. More muscles would solve that .Regis-de-giens wrote: I also think that it could lead to less agility (slower turn) but to be confirmed (at least less camber is less agile)
Yes you have to trade camber for some stability with this mod but I think it is acceptable for people. I think it will work on most current kites. I have actually given up on high camber in all winds. Going upwind best is the most important thing. High camber makes little difference for the best power, because you get that flying the kite fastest at low AoA. The high camber comes on at higher AoA so is less usable flying the kite fast. I really wish kites generally had faster airfoils on them, as in thinner.Regis-de-giens wrote: So, I must say that I do not trust a lot in this mod for the majority of kites (and certainly not for very light wind where you look for high camber but limited by stability)
Weird, bar travel got less for me after the mod.S2000kitesurfer wrote: Before the modification there was about 8 inches of usable bar throw.
I am keen to try it in light wind.S2000kitesurfer wrote: So the only problem I foresee would be really really light conditions.But that would be below the target wind im aiming for with the wife 6 minimum 15 max on her foil.
The kite shouldn't have much more depower. The depower limit stays much the same, but you get a little more taking the pulley off the end of the B pulley line which makes it longer. It would be more that you can depower it with less bar travel or trim now. You can alter the mixer to get some more depower. My Genesis has a bit of a tendency to invert with too much depower so I will likely reduce it.S2000kitesurfer wrote: IMO the 30%ish more depower could turn this kite into a floating jump machine.
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