Bro...1) calm down, I am a Flysurfer fanboy through and through. 2) It's undeniable that the R1V2 was along before the Sonic Race and that it's a winning kite. I didn't say the Sonic Race was built off it, in fact I made a careful point to make sure it was clear that's NOT what I was saying. 3) I know the Sonic2 isn't their premier race kite, but until the Sonic Race was available for sale on their site, it's not fair to compare prototypes to the production kite Ozone was making and selling retail.
As far as the R1V3, I don't have any firsthand information upon which to make an informed statement, other than to say that if it wasn't a LOT better than the R1V2, they would have pissed off a lot of people trying to get them to replace their quivers for essentially an equally performative kite. I think it was smart of them to just leave the R1V2 alone and wait until there's more of an update to release a V3.
I'm not sure what you're trying to accomplish here, if you're just trolling like Pump Me Up to get people to defend their brand of choice, congrats. If you wanted an insightful discussion of pros and cons, fail.
Nah my point is to understand why there’s even a discussion on why someone would pick Ozone over Flysurfer when it comes to foil choices. I kinda see Flysurfer like Apple and Ozone like Samsung. Ozone seems to come out with stuff earlier but a lot less refined why Flysurfer takes their time and comes out with something that works quite well. Not that they don’t have their faults. Their bars still suck, the Unity which has so much potential but it’s insane bridle and weight gave it such a small windrange(thanks Gunnar) and things like the internal straps breaking on their lotus kites which I hope doesn’t become a problem with the Spuls but really there is no good reason to choose Ozone over Flysurfer until Ozone bumps up with game and lower their prices. I think opening some more Flysurfer dealers would be a great help as well. Well I’m out of Beer and according to my tracking number my Soul 15 is still far away so I guess I’ll call it a night.
While they are both great kites flysurfer is a higher performing kite . Like previous posters said they take their time and bring out a kite that’s actually better than the previous version where as ozone seems to put out whatever they can just to have something new out there every year. And bye the way I didn’t appreciate the R1 mushy spongy feel at the bar and the hyperlinks non eagerness to go Upwind. lol
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Ridiculous argument trying to say which of two great brands are 'better'. Also stupid to claim Ozone bring new kites out just for the sake of it when they recently cancelled bringing out a new kite on the basis that it wasn't as good as they had hoped. Both are great brands and I fly both. For the record though in the Soul I think Flysurfer have the best foil kite on the market for most normal riders. I couldn't really care less whether the R1V2 or Sonic Race are better at winning world cup races - this is hardly relevant to the vast majority of us.
Funny guy. You can start by checking what rides world champion and that pretty much should tell you why racers are still buying R1V2 that was released in 2016. How many flysurfers released since then? And still inferior to old R1V2.
So what you're saying is, *I* could get out there on an R1 and win because the gear is so good that rider skill is irrelevant?
Yes, that's pretty much the Ozone argument. Guess Terry/Steve has been writing your speeches.
No, there is no kite that would make me world champion. However, I state the fact that Ozone produces such great kites that even world champion chooses it to win.