downunder wrote: ↑
Thu Jun 28, 2018 1:37 pm
Let him get the Serial Number etc and send to Ozone or post here.
I have R1 and would hate to see that happening. As LE exploded on my Boost1 which was only used 20 times or so over few seasons. So yeah, big, BIG, hustle doing mixers etc for that to happen
Put it this way, if that was a paraglider, he would lost his life and a huge investigation would happen...Ozone makes paragliders so should be noted.
These are not made to paraglider standards, particularly weaker on the bridles. They are used much more than a paraglider and don't have the use limits paragliders have. Use over water is quite safe but land very dangerous. I really hope kiting doesn't become heavily regulated, having to get a license will really suck. Some solid standards around gear would be really good, knowing a certain standard of gear is good for so many hours would make kiting a lot safer for things like land, remote kiting, etc. As it is now you just need to trust that certain brands like Flysurfer are the best you can use and not use old gear. Having said that about Flysurfer it's disturbing to hear that about a Boost :-/ .
Mossy 757 wrote:
Relax Z, if that doesn't work, sell your kite and buy a newer one with a more tunable mixer
Second hand kites particularly foils usually have issues. Bargains can be had if you have the time and intelligence to fix them.
kitexpert wrote:There is no reason why it should be like that.
There is every reason it should, particular the one that it IS LIKE THAT!
Camber increase during powering up does not relate "engaging times" (of line rows) at all.
Basic approach is B-C-Z all engage simultaneously when bar is sheeted in
Not on camber changing kites, not on advanced foil kites where their designer has a clue.
kitexpert wrote:WTF is this?
You displaying on a public forum your complete lack of knowledge. Lets just hope the LEI brand you work for doesn't accidentally get leaked. Corbet would be telling you to sweat at this point, but I like his new handle and particularly picture lol.
kitexpert wrote:Extending just C causes a distortion in airfoil
Amazing I know, you would think that is the desired intention LOL.
kitexpert wrote:if also Z is extended
This is in isolation to that, 2 different things. No free design lessons for you though.
No, you are an idiot.
kitexpert wrote:Lengthening A has same effect as to shortening B-C
No, it changes the AB limit too. You need to not touch B to not change that. Why am I having to explain this to someone who names himself an "expert". How does your employer put up with your ignorance? Oh I forgot they make infaltos, they encourage your ignorance and commend you for it.
Limiting depower may occur because kite with new slightly lower camber
Oh so it does limit depower, lol. No it doesn't occur because you change camber, but because you change the limit on B. How can you be so stupid? You claim to design kites.
but if more stability is needed by tweaking it is unavoidable
Oh wow. First of course it is avoidable, but it is painfully obvious now why you have no idea how that is so. Second how can you be contradicting yourself on needing tweaking, when you favorite saying is the whole kite should be redesigned.
And how useful is that better "original" depower if kite collapses/tucks wingtips?
Ok ok free lesson for the "Expert", how the f.uck you can call yourself that, I am not sure, CAD work? lol maybe.. I digress. Ok instability could be initiated by the camber. Higher camber can cause the kite to rotate forward reduce AoA, collapse, fly out of the window or both. Strange set of events that sheeting in does not always increase AoA. Kite can even collapse when at high sheet states that would appear to be deeper in the window but are not when wind angle changes and so window moves putting kite more at the edge. Typical storm conditions will do this. Kites will never be as stable powered as depowered, but maximum depower is always useful particular for when conditions allow use, even flagging the kite could be considered depowering. One can always limit the depower with the bar or trim. There is no reason to reduce it at the mixer below what is usable in some conditions. Doing so will have large negatives on performance, particularly lightwind! There is interesting thing done on LEIs not really used fully on Foils yet which is to flag part of the canopy, completely killing it's lift and increase stability from increase drag of flapping skin. A low AR singleskin foil hydrid could do this.