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Re: Flysurfer Peak 4

Postby Flyboy » Mon Mar 13, 2023 3:55 am

Yeah - I know that's the answer, but a double skin takes up a lot more luggage space if you're flying with it. I started with 6m and 4m Peaks and then added a 5m (and a 3m). Now I almost always use the 5m rather than the 6m ... except when it's really light and then I wonder if the 8m or the 11m wouldn't be more useful in extending the range lower.

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Re: Flysurfer Peak 4

Postby Janus » Mon Mar 13, 2023 12:59 pm

Flyboy wrote:
Mon Mar 13, 2023 3:55 am
Yeah - I know that's the answer, but a double skin takes up a lot more luggage space if you're flying with it. I started with 6m and 4m Peaks and then added a 5m (and a 3m). Now I almost always use the 5m rather than the 6m ... except when it's really light and then I wonder if the 8m or the 11m wouldn't be more useful in extending the range lower.
I got P4 3m t/m 11m..
If you have consistent wind and a freeride foil (not "freewave") my advice is then the twinskin route..
p4 11 has no drift compared to the smaller sizes and also the 8m "lacks" it.. so freewave foiling is not nice with them.. when the wind is 12 kts+ and with the 5m its another story. :D
The 8m is fine in 8-12 kts with a surffoil, but not in really surf conditions where you need the drift. (downwind waveriding)

But if you have a gusty inland little pond then the 8m shines, its still has some good reaction on steering input. The 11m is not really an addition in low end, its more a "pulling bag" really slow steering.

For trips I wouldn't take a 11 with me anymore, better do some siteseeing in sub 12kts 8)

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Re: Flysurfer Peak 4

Postby nayy » Wed Mar 15, 2023 7:30 pm

Little demo to show the drifting capabilities from a peak4 5m² vs wingfoilers...

I can almost keep up with them... this would be impossible with a normal kite. Wind was 14-15kn max.



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Re: Flysurfer Peak 4

Postby alekbelia » Wed Mar 15, 2023 10:54 pm

nayy wrote:
Wed Mar 15, 2023 7:30 pm
Little demo to show the drifting capabilities from a peak4 5m² vs wingfoilers...
Single skin kite with hydrofoil has more maneuverability than any wing foil on all courses (not only the drifting). Kite loops and other kite maneuvers allow a much sharper change of direction and speed, which is not possible with a wing.
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Re: Flysurfer Peak 4

Postby bragnouff » Thu Mar 16, 2023 3:33 am

alekbelia wrote:
Wed Mar 15, 2023 10:54 pm
nayy wrote:
Wed Mar 15, 2023 7:30 pm
Little demo to show the drifting capabilities from a peak4 5m² vs wingfoilers...
Single skin kite with hydrofoil has more maneuverability than any wing foil on all courses (not only the drifting). Kite loops and other kite maneuvers allow a much sharper change of direction and speed, which is not possible with a wing.
Kind of, but at very deep angles you have to proactively move or loop the kite to keep it flying, despite an amazing drift, whereas the wing is perfectly fine going directly downwind flagged out.
Aside from those deep angles, the Peak smokes a wing on many fronts, but I must admit the wing has some appeal in some conditions with zero residual power.
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Re: Flysurfer Peak 4

Postby tomi3000 » Mon Apr 17, 2023 6:31 pm

I have been using Peak 4 for kite foiling for a few years now and I must say that it has ruined for me any other kites I have tried. The only exception is Kauper XT 13m V1 that I use for ultra low wind conditions but it only covers wind range 6-10 kn for me and I would not consider Peak 4 below 10 kn.

I have been using Peak 4 5 m from 12 knots and I am planning to keep it until it falls apart. I have tried previously filling the gap from 10-12 knots by using Peak 4 6m but didn't like it as there was almost no difference in lower end from Peak 4 5m and it seems that for me 5m size was the upper threshold of usable size/performance for this generation. I didn't try Peak 4 8m as the reviews were mixed and I assumed I wouldn't like it anyway. For now I have been using Soul 9m to fill this gap in wind range and it works sort of meaning I can use it but it doesn't have the same lightness feeling I am used to and I can't get used to it.

So before the next season I am back on a haunt for a unicorn kite to cover 10-12 knots. Would Peak 5 6m could be the one? Does it feel any better then Peak 4 in the same size?

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Re: Flysurfer Peak 4

Postby Gerwinnaar » Mon Apr 17, 2023 6:40 pm

tomi3000 wrote:
Mon Apr 17, 2023 6:31 pm
I have been using Peak 4 for kite foiling for a few years now and I must say that it has ruined for me any other kites I have tried. The only exception is Kauper XT 13m V1 that I use for ultra low wind conditions but it only covers wind range 6-10 kn for me and I would not consider Peak 4 below 10 kn.

I have been using Peak 4 5 m from 12 knots and I am planning to keep it until it falls apart. I have tried previously filling the gap from 10-12 knots by using Peak 4 6m but didn't like it as there was almost no difference in lower end from Peak 4 5m and it seems that for me 5m size was the upper threshold of usable size/performance for this generation. I didn't try Peak 4 8m as the reviews were mixed and I assumed I wouldn't like it anyway. For now I have been using Soul 9m to fill this gap in wind range and it works sort of meaning I can use it but it doesn't have the same lightness feeling I am used to and I can't get used to it.

So before the next season I am back on a haunt for a unicorn kite to cover 10-12 knots. Would Peak 5 6m could be the one? Does it feel any better then Peak 4 in the same size?
I can’t compare with peak4 but I own a peak5 6m and I use it in 10-15 knots (95kg) . In 10-12 knot I use 25m lines.

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Re: Flysurfer Peak 4

Postby Fatso » Mon Apr 17, 2023 7:41 pm

Gerwinnaar wrote:
Mon Apr 17, 2023 6:40 pm
tomi3000 wrote:
Mon Apr 17, 2023 6:31 pm
I have been using Peak 4 for kite foiling for a few years now and I must say that it has ruined for me any other kites I have tried. The only exception is Kauper XT 13m V1 that I use for ultra low wind conditions but it only covers wind range 6-10 kn for me and I would not consider Peak 4 below 10 kn.

I have been using Peak 4 5 m from 12 knots and I am planning to keep it until it falls apart. I have tried previously filling the gap from 10-12 knots by using Peak 4 6m but didn't like it as there was almost no difference in lower end from Peak 4 5m and it seems that for me 5m size was the upper threshold of usable size/performance for this generation. I didn't try Peak 4 8m as the reviews were mixed and I assumed I wouldn't like it anyway. For now I have been using Soul 9m to fill this gap in wind range and it works sort of meaning I can use it but it doesn't have the same lightness feeling I am used to and I can't get used to it.

So before the next season I am back on a haunt for a unicorn kite to cover 10-12 knots. Would Peak 5 6m could be the one? Does it feel any better then Peak 4 in the same size?
I can’t compare with peak4 but I own a peak5 6m and I use it in 10-15 knots (95kg) . In 10-12 knot I use 25m lines.
Same weight, had it, got to say around 10 knots it requires a bit of luck and a nice gust perhaps... 12 knots and it works for sure.

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Re: Flysurfer Peak 4

Postby Flyboy » Mon Apr 17, 2023 8:10 pm

alekbelia wrote:
Wed Mar 15, 2023 10:54 pm
nayy wrote:
Wed Mar 15, 2023 7:30 pm
Little demo to show the drifting capabilities from a peak4 5m² vs wingfoilers...
Single skin kite with hydrofoil has more maneuverability than any wing foil on all courses (not only the drifting). Kite loops and other kite maneuvers allow a much sharper change of direction and speed, which is not possible with a wing.
I would agree in principle ... but I have noticed that very skilled wing foilers are able to get impressive performance even in light wind/small waves. I just think that with all the relative newcomers to wing foiling that are out there it's not common to see somebody with those skills.

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Re: Flysurfer Peak 4

Postby nayy » Sat Jul 29, 2023 7:35 pm

last session with my flysurfer peak4 5m², before I change to flysurfer hybrids.



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