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Re: Flysurfer Peak 4

Postby borist » Tue Nov 24, 2020 7:41 am

15 kn should be plenty for 4m

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Re: Flysurfer Peak 4

Postby haiku » Tue Nov 24, 2020 10:13 am

Jyoder wrote:
Mon Nov 23, 2020 11:22 pm
Brand new Peak 4m in 15-20, gusting to 30knots. Right wingtip folded every time i tried to tack to once side, just as I sheeted out bringing the kite through 12 o’clock. Didn’t happen to other side. Gusty offshore winds so expect some instability but the asymmetry is worrisome of kite issue.

Anyone experience this?

I’M experienced with foil kites and the bridle is intact and not twisted. Haven’t started measuring anything yet though.
Hi I experienced the same issue on the left tip with my 13 m in Its top end and gusty wind (over 13/14 Knots) and once with my 3 m over 50 Knots ( :D ). I tried everything to solve this problem but I didn't succeded, the kite still works amanzingly under 12 Knots and It is still my best choice for freeriding in ultra light wind conditions when a classic double skin foil kite could collapse so, when the wind is over 13 Knots I switch to the 8 or 5 m. By the way, I'm looking forward to foiling with the new 6 m. You can see my Peaks (and Sonics 3) in action in the video below.



Cheers :bye:

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Re: Flysurfer Peak 4

Postby Adventure Logs » Tue Nov 24, 2020 9:05 pm

Ive found this can happen in over powered conditions unless you have a high V bar setup. What I do is just keep the steering lines a little tensioned and it helps reduce the collapse. I’ve ridden the 13m in close to 20kts doing this without issue.
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Re: Flysurfer Peak 4

Postby jumptheshark » Wed Nov 25, 2020 12:14 am

Ive had tip collapse on the 3m in super nukin gusts. Learned early with that kite to keep "some" rear line tension. I think I rig down from the other sizes before it becomes a likely issue. When I only had the 5m and then the 4 I was riding them overpowered more often and worried about longevity. With time you just get better with the kites in their lower end and tend to rig down early.

30 knots gust is a lot for the 4m. Mitigate by slowing down, kite high carrying your weight, maintain some rear line tension or turn and ride straight downwind. Eventually you also learn how to oversheet to kill power while not flapping.

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Re: Flysurfer Peak 4

Postby Janus » Wed Nov 25, 2020 11:07 am

jumptheshark wrote:
Wed Nov 25, 2020 12:14 am
Ive had tip collapse on the 3m in super nukin gusts. Learned early with that kite to keep "some" rear line tension. I think I rig down from the other sizes before it becomes a likely issue. When I only had the 5m and then the 4 I was riding them overpowered more often and worried about longevity. With time you just get better with the kites in their lower end and tend to rig down early.

30 knots gust is a lot for the 4m. Mitigate by slowing down, kite high carrying your weight, maintain some rear line tension or turn and ride straight downwind. Eventually you also learn how to oversheet to kill power while not flapping.
exactly.
the 3m is doing this also at +27kts gusts while to much depowering. (so keep the power up a little and perhaps take a smaller frontwing)

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Re: Flysurfer Peak 4

Postby darippah » Wed Nov 25, 2020 2:32 pm

haiku wrote:
Tue Nov 24, 2020 10:13 am
3 m over 50 Knots ( :D )
Tell us more!

How did the 3m perform in 50 knots?

I like to ride very powered up, even with peaks... on a small and medium sized Race wing.

What would you say the upper range of the 3m is to be manageable?

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Re: Flysurfer Peak 4

Postby jumptheshark » Wed Nov 25, 2020 3:28 pm

There is no way I can imagine the 3m handling over 40 knots.

I've had quite a few really big days this fall with the 3m on 12m lines.

Am average weight an can survive gusts to 35+ but only enjoy the ride up to around 30 knots. Above 30 is simply to prove to myself I can do it safely. Great right up to the point I'm wrong!

50 is another two orders of magnitude.

No way.
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Re: Flysurfer Peak 4

Postby a99 » Wed Nov 25, 2020 5:31 pm

For 50 knots on foil just take ikea bag and will ride safy and cheap:)
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Re: Flysurfer Peak 4

Postby loco4viento » Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:25 pm

Upwinding with an IKEA bag could be tough in 50 knots...and that’s just while walking on the beach.

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Re: Flysurfer Peak 4

Postby haiku » Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:38 pm

darippah wrote:
Wed Nov 25, 2020 2:32 pm
haiku wrote:
Tue Nov 24, 2020 10:13 am
3 m over 50 Knots ( :D )
Tell us more!

How did the 3m perform in 50 knots?

I like to ride very powered up, even with peaks... on a small and medium sized Race wing.

What would you say the upper range of the 3m is to be manageable?
Hi, in my video you can see the Peak 4 3 m flying in 50 to 60 Knots at Porto Pollo Sardinia, I check the wind force before that session. It was nuking but I was able to ride without risking any lofting. The only drawback was the left wing collapsing in the most powerful gusts, but It happened only a couple of times, not a big deal. That being said I was very happy to ride safely in those conditions and trust me I've never thought to foil in such strong wind before I had the Peak 4 3 m.

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Carlo

PS: 30 Knots with the Peak 4 3 m are a piece of cake :wink:
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