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Re: Flysurfer Peak 4

Postby tomtom » Tue Nov 12, 2019 10:28 pm

lots of cloud vs peak comparison is here just use search. Mostly positive outcome for Peaks - upwind should be hair better for cloud.

My range 86 kg 1200 wing
16 to 20 knts 4m
18 to 25 knts 3m

this is sweetspot - absolute range is bigger in both direction

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Re: Flysurfer Peak 4

Postby Kitedougiefresh » Tue Nov 12, 2019 10:49 pm

airsail wrote:
Tue Nov 12, 2019 8:30 pm
Has anyone compared the Cloud and Peak 4?
Wind range 16+ knots, 80 kg on an 1100 wing chasing wind swell. Love the 6.2 Cloud but they are hard to get outside the US, need something smaller, either the 3 or 4 mtr Peak4 maybe.
Sold all my clouds after riding a Peak. Had a 5, 8, 13.4D1 clouds. Was a cloud rider for 6 years and was happy. These just drift so much better and they are very agnostic in their behavior. You get on a wave and forget about them until you need them. I have the 5, 8, and 11m Peak 4's.

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Re: Flysurfer Peak 4

Postby Cefirmeza » Tue Nov 12, 2019 10:54 pm

What is the low end for the 11m? Can it handle lulls staying up in the air?

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Re: Flysurfer Peak 4

Postby slowboat » Wed Nov 13, 2019 1:08 am

airsail wrote:
Tue Nov 12, 2019 8:30 pm
Has anyone compared the Cloud and Peak 4?
Wind range 16+ knots, 80 kg on an 1100 wing chasing wind swell. Love the 6.2 Cloud but they are hard to get outside the US, need something smaller, either the 3 or 4 mtr Peak4 maybe.
Peaks are MUCH better for drift and depower. Turning speed is similar on a per power basis. Clouds have a slight edge upwind. Clouds relaunch much better and are more expensive.

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Re: Flysurfer Peak 4

Postby omg » Wed Nov 13, 2019 1:26 pm

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Mon Nov 11, 2019 6:24 pm
What's Peak4 5m comfortable low end range ie. not overly working the kite for Onda 633 (with pocket board) for 80kg person with good skills, please? Would 14-15 knots avg. with gusts to 16-17 knots be doable with that combo, or how low can you go without overly working the kite?

Thanks!
Thanks for the feedback guys, much appreciated!

Further question on the range of my above setup & weight, what is your comfortable range for the 5m, please? Someone wrote about the sweet spot for the kites, and they were quite small, like 4-5 knots, but we get a variable wind hence my question.

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Re: Flysurfer Peak 4

Postby omg » Wed Nov 13, 2019 1:26 pm

omg wrote:
Mon Nov 11, 2019 6:24 pm
What's Peak4 5m comfortable low end range ie. not overly working the kite for Onda 633 (with pocket board) for 80kg person with good skills, please? Would 14-15 knots avg. with gusts to 16-17 knots be doable with that combo, or how low can you go without overly working the kite?

Thanks!
Thanks for the feedback guys, much appreciated!

Further question on the range of my above setup & weight, what is your comfortable range for the 5m, please? Tomtom wrote about the sweet spots for the kites, and they were quite small, like 4-5 knots, and like he wrote the range is bigger, but how much? We get quite a variable wind hence my question.

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Re: Flysurfer Peak 4

Postby drsurf » Wed Nov 13, 2019 2:20 pm

omg wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2019 1:26 pm
omg wrote:
Mon Nov 11, 2019 6:24 pm
What's Peak4 5m comfortable low end range ie. not overly working the kite for Onda 633 (with pocket board) for 80kg person with good skills, please? Would 14-15 knots avg. with gusts to 16-17 knots be doable with that combo, or how low can you go without overly working the kite?

Thanks!
Thanks for the feedback guys, much appreciated!

Further question on the range of my above setup & weight, what is your comfortable range for the 5m, please? Tomtom wrote about the sweet spots for the kites, and they were quite small, like 4-5 knots, and like he wrote the range is bigger, but how much? We get quite a variable wind hence my question.
Based on my experience and a local kiter about your weight, I'd say 14-15 knots avg. with gusts to 16-17 knots would be fine for a 5m Peak4. Using the Onda 633 you should be able to comfortably foil at 10 knots. Your bottom end is limited by your ability to get yourself out of the water, as once your foiling the apparent wind and low drag will make it easy.

Just get the Peak4 5m and try it and see what you think. They're relatively inexpensive and fun. You'll find it easy to sell if you don't like it but I doubt you'd let it go once you've had a taste of the driiiift :wink:
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Re: Flysurfer Peak 4

Postby omg » Wed Nov 13, 2019 2:45 pm

How about gusts to 20 knots and above, is it uncomfortable already then?

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Re: Flysurfer Peak 4

Postby merl » Wed Nov 13, 2019 3:35 pm

omg wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2019 2:45 pm
How about gusts to 20 knots and above, is it uncomfortable already then?
Short gusts are OK but when it is steady I find that the 5m stops working properly at around 20kn. A tip (the upper tip I think) will repeatedly fold in and get stuck for quite a while. Not something that I have seen on regular foils. I'm 90-95kg btw.

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Re: Flysurfer Peak 4

Postby tomtom » Wed Nov 13, 2019 8:31 pm

Peaks are very cheap, very light. I found that i need all 3 sizes 5,4,3. Imo there is almost no point not having all 3. Buy whatever size from these 3 first. If you like it buy next one or next two.
There is no redundant size in 5,4,3 lineup. Its not like 12, 10, 9 LEI where you can go from 12 to 9.
Btw 5 to 4 is same than 12 to 9. Going from 5 to 3 is like having 12 and 7 LEI. Its not that Peaks have little range. Percentage difference between small sizes are much bigger than m2 suggest.
Peaks have as much range as any LEI


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