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Re: Flysurfer Peak 4

Postby slowboat » Tue Jan 07, 2020 11:03 am

Brian H wrote:
Tue Jan 07, 2020 3:31 am
So ive missed a few good days lately as my 5m is to big , Ive used the 5m from 10-22 kts and find the sweet spot to be 12-16 . I'm 70 kg and ride a 120 groove skate with a 150 lift . Can I jump straight to the 3m ? Does the 3m have overlap with the 5m or will I wish I bought the 4m ?
I am similar in size to you. If you want to use the Peaks in their sweet spots, definitely get a 4. If you are willing to flog the 3 meter a bit and the days you missed aren't that huge (wind wise), you can try to get away with a 3 meter. I find the 3 meter back stalls very easily when underpowered and needs at a minimum, AVG wind of 19-20 knots to be fun.

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Re: Flysurfer Peak 4

Postby tomtom » Tue Jan 07, 2020 12:03 pm

Dont miss 4. Peaks are cheap and small. There is NO redundant size. 3,4,5 - is like 7-9-12.


And Armin PLEASE!!! - do smaller peak than 3m - with same spacing that is already is 5,4,3,??? Spacing is perfect. There is nothing better than tiny kite and nothing worse than be overpowered on hydrofoil.
I experiences many occasion where 3m peak was too big. At 202 cm and 90 kg.

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Re: Flysurfer Peak 4

Postby norcom » Tue Jan 07, 2020 3:14 pm

Armin, don't listen to them! :evil: Please make a 6.5m! Or a 6m and 7m if you want to take double my money. :lol:

I have 4,5,8,11m and I'll probably pickup the 3m but definitely don't want the 13m. The 8m is good but I think the 6/7m would be GREAT!

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Re: Flysurfer Peak 4

Postby Horst Sergio » Tue Jan 07, 2020 5:05 pm

Brian H wrote:
Tue Jan 07, 2020 3:31 am
So ive missed a few good days lately as my 5m is to big , Ive used the 5m from 10-22 kts and find the sweet spot to be 12-16 . I'm 70 kg and ride a 120 groove skate with a 150 lift . Can I jump straight to the 3m ? Does the 3m have overlap with the 5m or will I wish I bought the 4m ?
Hi Brian,
I habe 3 and 5 since a year and happy with it. Sometimes think about 4 m² but now more as it would better fit together with my 2,5 m² firefly. But agree with Tom and slowboat that it is not exaggerated to have all 3 small sizes. But if you want to buy first one additionally to 5 I would recommend 3.

@Tom and slowboat:
What is your feeling in general that 4 feels more like a big 3 or a small 5?

And I also would have no problem if FS adds a 2 m² AND something in between 6-7 m²

But actually it is more likely to go for a 1,5 m² firefly.

1,5f - 2,5f - 4P - 6,5P could be very nice indeed, pack down in a small bag and work perfect and with compfort inbetween 8-40+ knts with a single 1000 cm² foil :D

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Re: Flysurfer Peak 4

Postby Tone » Wed Jan 08, 2020 1:24 pm

What kind of power is the 13m Peak 4 producing comparatively speaking?

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Re: Flysurfer Peak 4

Postby haiku » Wed Jan 08, 2020 6:48 pm

Tone wrote: What kind of power is the 13m Peak 4 producing comparatively speaking?
15 Soul….more or less :D .

PS: I have a wonderful ultra light wind today with my Peak 4 11 m.

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Re: Flysurfer Peak 4

Postby slowboat » Wed Jan 08, 2020 7:43 pm

Horst Sergio wrote:
Tue Jan 07, 2020 5:05 pm
Brian H wrote:
Tue Jan 07, 2020 3:31 am
So ive missed a few good days lately as my 5m is to big , Ive used the 5m from 10-22 kts and find the sweet spot to be 12-16 . I'm 70 kg and ride a 120 groove skate with a 150 lift . Can I jump straight to the 3m ? Does the 3m have overlap with the 5m or will I wish I bought the 4m ?
Hi Brian,
I habe 3 and 5 since a year and happy with it. Sometimes think about 4 m² but now more as it would better fit together with my 2,5 m² firefly. But agree with Tom and slowboat that it is not exaggerated to have all 3 small sizes. But if you want to buy first one additionally to 5 I would recommend 3.

@Tom and slowboat:
What is your feeling in general that 4 feels more like a big 3 or a small 5?

And I also would have no problem if FS adds a 2 m² AND something in between 6-7 m²

But actually it is more likely to go for a 1,5 m² firefly.

1,5f - 2,5f - 4P - 6,5P could be very nice indeed, pack down in a small bag and work perfect and with compfort inbetween 8-40+ knts with a single 1000 cm² foil :D
If I had to choose, I would say the 4 feels like a big 3.

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Re: Flysurfer Peak 4

Postby tomtom » Wed Jan 08, 2020 8:25 pm

big 3. But i just dont get the fuzz. Why do i have to choose bettween 3 and 5? When it is just 4! 4 is my favorite size. nobody even consider to think if 12-9-7 is right sizes for TT riding.
5-4-3 - is JUST RIGHT sizes and spaces for Hydrofoil riding. Small sizes like 2 or 2.5 is peace of cake for 30 knots + where you need 5m for TT.
Norcom irony is just ignorance or complete different style riding where you dont mind excess power

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Re: Flysurfer Peak 4

Postby slowboat » Wed Jan 08, 2020 8:52 pm

tomtom wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2020 8:25 pm
big 3. But i just dont get the fuzz. Why do i have to choose bettween 3 and 5? When it is just 4! 4 is my favorite size. nobody even consider to think if 12-9-7 is right sizes for TT riding.
5-4-3 - is JUST RIGHT sizes and spaces for Hydrofoil riding. Small sizes like 2 or 2.5 is peace of cake for 30 knots + where you need 5m for TT.
Norcom irony is just ignorance or complete different style riding where you dont mind excess power
It is because people are making a mental error. They are looking at the absolute sizes, not the percentage differences in sizes. They don't want to have a 5 meter and a 4 meter kite because they are only 1 meter different. But of course, that one meter is a 20-25% difference. As you say, if the sizes were 12-9-7, people would not consider skipping the 9, so why skip the 4?

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Re: Flysurfer Peak 4

Postby norcom » Wed Jan 08, 2020 9:05 pm

tomtom wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2020 8:25 pm
Norcom irony is just ignorance or complete different style riding where you dont mind excess power
Don't mind excess power? My style of riding with Peaks is mostly in light to ultra-light wind. Perhaps check my other posts where I'm using Peaks with a 100L board and GoFoil M280/M200 wings. Have you flown the 5, 8 and 11m Peaks in under 10mph to understand what the light wind needs are? I can't remember the last time I rode in 30 knots here and hurricane season's a few months away. Plenty of other kites that work in 30 knots but not many that are as fun as the Peaks in under 10. There's a big difference in how fun and playful the 5m is compared to the 8m in small surf.


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