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Best freeride bars for foil kites?

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 5:47 pm
by noahsw
I'm looking for 50/60cm bars with 14-15m lines (preferably out of the box), relatively lightweight, long depower, strong enough for jumping, auto-untwist.

I ride Souls. It seems like my needs are in-between normal bars and race bars, but curious if anyone has found good options out there.

Thanks!

Re: Best freeride bars for foil kites?

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 6:36 pm
by andylc
I think the Ozone foil race bar and works great - and you can choose what line length you want - Ozone race lines are available in loads of lengths and are same spec as Flysurfer standard lines.

Re: Best freeride bars for foil kites?

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 6:46 pm
by deniska
andylc wrote:
Tue Mar 19, 2019 6:36 pm
I think the Ozone foil race bar and works great - and you can choose to hate rc line length you want.
Do not jump with ozone race lines..
I know someone who broke them during the first week...
They are just not for jumping, especially if you are on a heavier side..

Re: Best freeride bars for foil kites?

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 7:05 pm
by tomtom
Carbon one. There are many option, SK bar, Groove, and some other google it. Once you try bare carbon bar without EVA you will not going back,
My complete 56cm bar with 27m normal heavy lines with QR - leash line and trim weigt 380g... With bare carbon bar your hand will slide from center while riding to end for turning naturally. Sticking grip on bar is wrong concept - we slide our hands on bar - we are not holding on one position like bicycle. Also any normal heavy bar will feel wrong and without feedback.
And im not even talking about sticking depower line while turning /hallo Flysurfer bars/

Re: Best freeride bars for foil kites?

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 7:29 pm
by SalmonSlayer
noahsw wrote:
Tue Mar 19, 2019 5:47 pm
I'm looking for 50/60cm bars with 14-15m lines (preferably out of the box), relatively lightweight, long depower, strong enough for jumping, auto-untwist.

I ride Souls. It seems like my needs are in-between normal bars and race bars, but curious if anyone has found good options out there.

Thanks!
What does long depower mean? How long?

Auto-untwist is a tough one to get. I have heard that Core has one that works as well and the North Click bar. Having a QR/Chicken loop set up that you can manually untwist is the best option if you dont go with Core or the North (dutone?) Click bar.

Re: Best freeride bars for foil kites?

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 7:40 pm
by andylc
North Click bar is a dog if you like sheeting whilst turning. Corrected my text above! The spec (kgs breaking strain) of Ozone race lines is identical to Flysurfer standard lines so not sure why you can jump with Flysurfer lines and not Ozone race lines? I certainly do...! Both lines are 300kg front 200kg rear.

Re: Best freeride bars for foil kites?

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 8:11 pm
by TomW
Im riding Hyperlinks 9 and 7m plus a flysurfer Sonic 2 13. Used a 50 cm ozone V3 foil water . Then built 2 carbon bars. One with trim , one without. Both without swivel on front lines. After a year, I find the ozone bar best.
Why is Ozone bar best for me?
Barends and floaters are soft. Don't bang up board during dragging out.
Swivel is easiest when keeping bar attached and launching with twisted front lines.
Grip is comfy.
Brake line is perfectly positioned.
I'm still using my 60cm carbon homemade on the Sonic 2. It has trim.
I find I use trim to adjust kite for windrange.

Re: Best freeride bars for foil kites?

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 8:21 pm
by deniska
andylc wrote:
Tue Mar 19, 2019 7:40 pm
North Click bar is a dog if you like sheeting whilst turning. Corrected my text above! The spec (kgs breaking strain) of Ozone race lines is identical to Flysurfer standard lines so not sure why you can jump with Flysurfer lines and not Ozone race lines? I certainly do...! Both lines are 300kg front 200kg rear.

They might have bumped up the spec recently.. 300/200 looks like it should work for most people.

I distinctly remember the old ones were 100kg rated for back lines..
and one of the guys broke them on second run with his chrono.. (chrono2?)
http://ozonekites.com.au/products/ozone-race-lines/

Re: Best freeride bars for foil kites?

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 8:23 pm
by deniska
SalmonSlayer wrote:
Tue Mar 19, 2019 7:29 pm

Auto-untwist is a tough one to get. I have heard that Core has one that works as well and the North Click bar. Having a QR/Chicken loop set up that you can manually untwist is the best option if you dont go with Core or the North (dutone?) Click bar.
Core does not come in a long version and it's a high Y.. Does not Soul need a low V?
Click bar will have limited depower with no way to extend, I think..

Re: Best freeride bars for foil kites?

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 8:27 pm
by andylc