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Re: New to Soul, Which Bar?

Postby sonny2727 » Wed Apr 03, 2019 4:00 am

You can use any 4 line low V bar...

BUT in low wind you will appreciate 55cm -62CM bar or if you are used fast turning kites...
Carbon bars are lighter but fi you are not travelling there's not lot of benefit and you risk damaging expensive carbon boards (or yourself) as no soft bar ends.
double pully systems great for wind range and adjusting while hiked out...

There is no point ordering FS bar without any reviews as its hard to imagine it being better than other tried and tested is short why wait..get the best bar and best kite that suit you ...

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Re: New to Soul, Which Bar?

Postby noahsw » Wed Apr 03, 2019 6:27 am

Any thoughts on F-one's new foil bar?
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Re: New to Soul, Which Bar?

Postby slowboat » Wed Apr 03, 2019 9:04 am

Bars without trim straps are fine for some kites and riding styles. For the Soul, I definitely like a bar with a trim strap.

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Re: New to Soul, Which Bar?

Postby deniska » Wed Apr 03, 2019 5:53 pm

I bought this bar for my 15 soul.. seem to work fine: ... lNEALw_wcB

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Re: New to Soul, Which Bar?

Postby Skywalker7 » Wed Apr 03, 2019 10:25 pm

Actually any 4 lines bar will work somehow, but to fly a foil kite you need to take into considerations the followings:
1. You need a bar which has the longest possible depower(bar travel) and therefore you would like the shortest possible chicken loop. The Infinity 3.0 is just like that. This inifity 3.0 chicken loop is not sexy at all but relatively short so the bar is quite close to you. This chicken loop is not ideal for unhooking but otherwise it is quite perfect.
2. Then you need to consider that most of the 4 line bars are not auto untwist which means that after a few rolls or loops you can probably forget your single line safety system unless you always untwist the line by hand.
3. Then you need to consider that sometimes you really need to do something with your control lines and you might need the balls as well. Actually the balls on the lines are just put at the correct distance so by catching those you can execute the best restarts or stalls, etc.
4. Actually to feel the foil kite you need a bar with an uncovered rope as the depower rope. If you try a depower rope which is covered with rubber or some plastic material you will feel way less feedback from the kite as those materials has way higher resistance then an uncovered dynema rope. I just tried a cabrinha bar for the Soul 15 and it was terrible.
5. Then for each kite has an ideal line lenght, so for the Soul 12 the 22 or 24m line would be too long unless you trying to ride in super lightwind. The 17+3 M line lenght of the Infinity 3.0 bar is quite optimal for Soul 12.
The Infinity 3.0 bar is still the safest, and best foil kite optimized bar which is mass produced. I am using other bars as well mainly for unhooking reasons and for tube kites, Kitech, Ozone bars, and today just tested a Carbrinha Fireball bar which I thought it will be very good for hydrofoiling but actually the bar had way too much restiance plus it had other problems too so it turned to be a very bad idea.
Dont belive to me :) just try as many bar as you can.
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Re: New to Soul, Which Bar?

Postby foilholio » Wed Apr 03, 2019 11:21 pm

Yes I forgot that you need to be able to sheet and turn hard. Chicken loops? :-) So 1990s. I am amazed they are still sold.

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Re: New to Soul, Which Bar?

Postby jatem » Thu Apr 04, 2019 2:02 am

What's the length of depower available on an ozone contact foil bar (throw + trim)?

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Re: New to Soul, Which Bar?

Postby elguapo » Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:07 pm

i have to withdraw my support for the enata bar.
i did have to activate the quick release in an overpowered situation this weekend....and my god did it hurt.
i'm surprised my finger isnt broken right now (but my figernail is broker...with a nice black/blue hue now)

i can overlook the racing style depower line getting in the way... but if i have to worry about a broken finger anytime i need to use the QR (i'd rather buy the ozone bar)

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