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Re: New aquatik single skin by Conceptair

Postby Regis-de-giens » Wed Aug 14, 2019 2:10 am

You can see Marc (Blanc ) seize the chicken loop sometimes when needed.

I called Benoit to chat this afternoon (about firefly as my attraction for this FF 2.5 for strong wind kite on water or snow) . I do not know if it will answer your question, but he said to me that the drift (meaning fully depowered or even 4 slack lines) is unbelievable and stability is crazy: you can absolutelly "forget the kite" , let the bar go (but it will uncomfortably flap) , ride in the direction you want without thinking , with no power in harness, and re-pilot the kite later on...

The kite seems simple but is not according to Benoit and requires even more fabrication work than a wave (double skin).
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Re: New aquatik single skin by Conceptair

Postby elguapo » Wed Aug 14, 2019 2:45 am

i look forward to see how it drifts and rides depowered.

flapping is ok and expected... i'd just like it not to twist and turn into a falling taco when the lines go slack for a few seconds.

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Re: New aquatik single skin by Conceptair

Postby Regis-de-giens » Wed Aug 14, 2019 2:06 pm

Yes i see your concern. I have not seen any video showing the depowered kite. Ben told me that during all his tests including horrible wind where even the CA wave was not stable, he never succed in frontstalling (hindenburg) the ff. Apparently "uncollapsable"... ! To be confirmed.

On my side, i am wondering how it behaves in very high wind like 40-45 knots on snow or water with the 2.5 (like i had once with the pulsion 369, it was the safety limit for my 60kg ...) . No test yet with those winds of a y FF unfortunatelly...

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Re: New aquatik single skin by Conceptair

Postby slowboat » Wed Aug 14, 2019 4:07 pm

stefFZ wrote:
Tue Jul 16, 2019 3:29 pm
Firefly 4m in 20-25 knots:



First comments on the 2.5 here > http://www.lesfoilz.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=4605

I am still waiting for the 6m.
Any more information about the 6 meter?

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Re: New aquatik single skin by Conceptair

Postby Horst Sergio » Wed Aug 14, 2019 5:17 pm

Regis-de-giens wrote:
Wed Aug 14, 2019 12:43 am
A 2.5m2 kite in 8-10 knot ? Are you kidding ???
This is my next kite ...
In the video of Marc it seems to be a 4 m², still very good, but to me seems not to different in the low end as Peaks. Just remember Marc is riding and pumping a foil that can also fly just with pumping.
But very cool ride and place to do :thumb:

Yesterday I ordered the 2,5 m² Firefly and hope for a bit more highend then my Peak4 3 m² even if not sure, but in any case pretty sure a better chance for relaunch if slaming it into white water.

When I get it I hope to be able to compare Firefly with my loved Peaks and maybe also Ozone Explore and GIN Marabou, even if the last one we still don't know when they start do deliver to our shop :roll:

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Re: New aquatik single skin by Conceptair

Postby Regis-de-giens » Wed Aug 14, 2019 7:20 pm

oh yeah sorry , it is a typo, I mixed with the one I intend to order (as well, but still hesitating with Wave 3m, depending on effective wind range for snow kite) ; I will correct.

interesting test to come from you Sergio, with your skills and analysis quality !

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Re: New aquatik single skin by Conceptair

Postby Regis-de-giens » Fri Aug 16, 2019 1:34 pm

I finally decided for a 3m Wave, suspecting a better wind range , important in my very gusty winds areas , especially when (rarely) strong; a bit less pure wave but more all-round I think. And ... cheaper in second hand vs Firefly

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Re: New aquatik single skin by Conceptair

Postby Horst Sergio » Fri Aug 16, 2019 8:20 pm

Regis-de-giens wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2019 1:34 pm
I finally decided for a 3m Wave, suspecting a better wind range , ...
For sure a good choice :thumb: , I thought about the same for the same reason. But now decided for the for sure a bit smaller range and lower high end, but hopefully even better drift, exciting new concept and also the backstall control for stunt kiting. :D .. and as also hope to have just one single concept that also fits well for the winter mountains.

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Re: New aquatik single skin by Conceptair

Postby stefFZ » Mon Aug 19, 2019 12:44 pm

I am out of office right now :-)

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I had not the proper wind to test the FF6 properly but I could it give it a go in small powerful waves although I had to walk upwind.

I tested water relaunch by landing it in the water from the beach over the shore break and i suspect water relaunch will not be an issue at all. On the beach I could run (not walk) 20m downwind with the FF at zenith position without collapsing the kite although I was under powered on my surfboard. Drift on the water was also very good and maniability as well. Bar pressure is lower than the Waves same size and there is no latency on bar inputs.

I cannot say much more right now, I need to do more tests.

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