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Re: Sonic II ...Mixer issues ?

Postby foilholio » Fri Jul 05, 2019 11:35 pm

Strange for A to be longer it is usually the shortest. Maybe flysurfer has really changed how they design make bridles for the sonic 2.

Z pigtail goes where rear line main/pigtail meets the z main/c pulley line. You can just larks head the Z pigtail underneath the rearmain-cpulley join. You can allso add a 8 knot in the rear main if you want to play with the length quickly just move the pigtail. You have the rear main/join, rear main knot and rear line/rearmain join. 3 settings and also the pigtail to adjust in length. Make the pigtail longer and attach it to the knot so you can go up or down a setting to quickly find which is better. Then fine tune the pigtail length.


This image is another way of extending Z, but illustrates some of what I said above. C pulley is larks headed instead on the 8knot in the rear main.
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Re: Sonic II ...Mixer issues ?

Postby Carlos_C » Sun Jul 07, 2019 6:44 pm

Update:

Took the kite to my local landboarding spot.....checked mixer on both sides and was out only by a few mm. Wind was around 5- 7 mph - if that - Hot launched after fully inflating kite and it worked perfectly - no tip tucks - tips stayed out perfectly. In fact the kite was one of the most well behaved I've used for landboarding in our turbulent london winds....

So next time in higher winds - hot launch - or make sure kite is fully inflated before launch

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Re: Sonic II ...Mixer issues ?

Postby Mossy 757 » Mon Jul 08, 2019 5:44 pm

twig wrote:
Fri Jul 05, 2019 4:41 pm
I have a Sonic 2 15m that i've been trying to trim alot.
The problem was that the whole A level was much longer then all other bridles. The amount of Line in the mixer I had left to change B + C with wasn't enough to get the kite at the original settings. I was measuring all the bridles and calculated through the lineplan where all of them should be compared with each other.

Then i started to do half knots at all connection points (but mainly a level only) to try and get closer to original trim. After that the kite front collapse and behave really bad. I dont understand how this should be done really.
Ive but way too many hours to try and get this one right.

What i would like to know is, between wich lines in the lineplan should you add Line to 'extend z'. I Guess thats what i should have done instead.
What you're describing sounds like shrunken pulley lines in the speed system (Flysurfer calls them 'spare part lines'). They're the bright yellow ones that your B and C pulleys run across. If you measure those, they could be a couple of cm out of whack and that would reduce the amount you can tune your kite.

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Re: Sonic II ...Mixer issues ?

Postby Tone » Tue Jul 09, 2019 11:04 am

Carlos_C wrote:
Sun Jul 07, 2019 6:44 pm
Update:

Took the kite to my local landboarding spot.....checked mixer on both sides and was out only by a few mm. Wind was around 5- 7 mph - if that - Hot launched after fully inflating kite and it worked perfectly - no tip tucks - tips stayed out perfectly. In fact the kite was one of the most well behaved I've used for landboarding in our turbulent london winds....

So next time in higher winds - hot launch - or make sure kite is fully inflated before launch
Don't come to my beach and hot launch the sonic.

Thanks.
Tony

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Re: Sonic II ...Mixer issues ?

Postby Carlos_C » Tue Jul 09, 2019 1:18 pm

Don't come to my beach and hot launch the sonic.

Thanks.
Tony
Don't worry.......hotlaunching @ Toms would be very painful........and not very courteous to the locals

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Re: Sonic II ...Mixer issues ?

Postby Adventure Logs » Tue Jul 09, 2019 5:46 pm

Tone wrote:
Tue Jul 09, 2019 11:04 am
Carlos_C wrote:
Sun Jul 07, 2019 6:44 pm
Update:

Took the kite to my local landboarding spot.....checked mixer on both sides and was out only by a few mm. Wind was around 5- 7 mph - if that - Hot launched after fully inflating kite and it worked perfectly - no tip tucks - tips stayed out perfectly. In fact the kite was one of the most well behaved I've used for landboarding in our turbulent london winds....

So next time in higher winds - hot launch - or make sure kite is fully inflated before launch
Don't come to my beach and hot launch the sonic.

Thanks.
Tony
What’s wrong with hotlaunching a foil?

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Re: Sonic II ...Mixer issues ?

Postby Mossy 757 » Tue Jul 09, 2019 6:56 pm

Tone wrote:
Tue Jul 09, 2019 11:04 am


Don't come to my beach...
You either forgot to include the "/sarcasm" tag or that's one of the most :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: comments I've ever read on here.

5-7mph...can you even launch a foil kite in that wind without hot launching it?

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Re: Sonic II ...Mixer issues ?

Postby StillLovinIt » Wed Jul 10, 2019 6:42 am

Here's a video that demonstrates how to fix collapsing wingtips by extending Z (also called D):
https://youtu.be/EUSH0Kjje5A?t=30

linked from: viewtopic.php?f=197&t=2400046

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Re: Sonic II ...Mixer issues ?

Postby Tone » Wed Jul 10, 2019 11:58 am

Mossy 757 wrote:
Tue Jul 09, 2019 6:56 pm
Tone wrote:
Tue Jul 09, 2019 11:04 am


Don't come to my beach...
You either forgot to include the "/sarcasm" tag or that's one of the most :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: comments I've ever read on here.

5-7mph...can you even launch a foil kite in that wind without hot launching it?
relax cupcake. I have known Carlos for a very long time (he was at my wedding), he knows exactly what I mean :P

Hot launching a foil is fine in light winds, hot launching a 13m Sonic in 25 knots is not fine.

Like I said, he knows :)

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Re: Sonic II ...Mixer issues ?

Postby Carlos_C » Wed Jul 10, 2019 3:28 pm

You think I'm going to be launching a 13mt sonic II in 25 knots with my skinny 70 Kg........you must be having a giraffe....


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