I think HPK and Aluula are a perfect match.
Aww, but I'm your idiot
Furthermore, I'll acknowledge that my previous post was antagonistic and was emotionally fueled criticism that was presented in an unproductive format. So, sorry if I've offended you personally.
You didn't offend me, I am just disappointed at what you typed. It feels to me clear you haven't used a kite like an ARC where as I have. I am also a good kiter and can fly a kite blind, and think that Autozenith is good.
Now lets get to my opinion - I'm just really not a fan of concepts and solutions that when rolled out, allows a user of a given task or system, to essentially absolve themselves from having to complete the learning/training that is required to be an effective and reliable user. We see this all the time on the road with modern day vehicles. So many great innovations that improve safety, responsiveness and accessibility that are, more often than not, used so frequently that the users don't feel the need to complete their understanding and training of how to operate their vehicle in it's entirety or without the driving aids.
Definitely but then people don't cover the basics with kites as they generally are now. Autozenith is a tool, used right or wrong it allows other things. me even with my reasonable skill will still end up with a kite in the water after some waves, it's rare but happens. I see this all the time from most riders though. With autozenith it practically never happens, think of all the potential trouble and damage to gear it prevents.
We can all agree that kiteboarding is becoming more popular every year. We would also mostly agree that a lot of people who start to learn kiteboarding try to skip steps and exhibit overconfidence during the early years. Now lets consider that we add in a kite that basically 'auto flies' if the user were to let go of the bar. Do you think that the new riders who are using this technology are likely to want a kite that doesn't 'auto fly' once they reach a stage of their progression where it would be wise to stop using it? Maybe they will and maybe they won't, its hard to say. But my feelings are that they won't - and so that's why I'm convinced that this type of kite will promote new riders to think they don't need further learning and training because the kite will do it for them.
I guess I just see this 'autozenith' concept as an innovation aimed at people who want/need it, but will be abused by people who don't.
You are correct in your thinking, except that we live in a free world and people are so free to choose these things for themselves. If Autozenith sees people end in more trouble for it and restricted because of the kites that have it then that is their problem isn't it? I think overall it will be good, learning things is steps is the best way to learn. After all you do not skip to start college when you are 6, do you? A kite that flys itself relieves the rider to focus on other things allowing quicker progression.
This type of kite does not relieve you from having to learn the more advanced aspects of kiting. It just relieves an aspect of kiting which is flying the kite at zenith or parking it there. It adds a complication that while riding you need to steer a kite down and not up. It makes waveriding, chatting, focusing on something in the water stopped like putting a board on, using two hands and many other things much easier.
I have to say in the eyes of many people who don't have or have used an autozenith kite, much of what people do with them can look like abuse. Such as tying them to cars or standing around chatting with no hands on the bar. It is not though and just using the kite as designed.
Thankyou for your measured and adult response to my somewhat childish words !
autozenith is easy to do, you put the center of mass behind the center of pull. On a foil kite that happens pretty easily on a tube kite it's really hard without changing the properties of the kite a lot because you have so much mass in the leading edge. I say good for him, but I don't see how you can do this without severely impacting performance. You can't cheat physics and there's a lot of weight in the leading edge.
I somehow don't think it is as simple as that. After all the center of lift is ahead of the center of mass on high depower foil kites. You just have to look at the A bridles position at about 9% cord and then the mass distribution of foil kites is fairly even with the center being at about 45%-50%. I know peterlynn did explain something like you said. I will have to dig up the article. My guess is the flexible nature of the kite has something to do with it. You could see with ARCs the tips would rotate to change AOA, top giving more lift and bottom giving lift up instead of down. Effect would push the kite back to zenith. Maybe the HPK because it is flexible can do this. I think flat kites and maybe bridles will prevent it. Scratching my memory hard, I think Peterlynn said something about the center of lift being ahead of the tow point... That would mean restricted depower.
Performance is a big question and I would think adding autozenith will affect something, likely depower... if it was easy and had no negatives it would likely be more common. I found it very handy.