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Re: Bruno is developing an autozenith tube kite

Postby purdyd » Mon Feb 17, 2020 2:20 pm

As someone who flew arcs for years I would say anyone’s concern that it autozenith makes kiting too easy are mis founded.

At the time, when it was common for lei kites to Hindenburg, the Peter Lynn arcs were a god send. You still had to fly the kite though. You had to pay attention to lulls and wind shifts just like any kite.

And moving to a lei was quite easy.

Today’s lei kites are extremely stable overhead in my opinion. All you need is a bit of rear line tension to keep them flying overhead.

I just have to laugh at anyone who says any advancement makes the sport too easy. They should walk the talk and use gear from 1999.
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Re: Bruno is developing an autozenith tube kite

Postby geokite » Mon Feb 17, 2020 6:07 pm

Since I'm not riding heel side all the time, an autozenith kite is the last thing I want. Toeside, hand on top of bar, steering the kite down just sucks. Just sold my larger arcs because of this.

But maybe what he will come up with will not drift up but just stay put. That might work.

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Re: Bruno is developing an autozenith tube kite

Postby foilholio » Tue Feb 18, 2020 12:57 am

It does make them a bit different to fly like that. You can twist your bar more up and ride opposite hand it you want it still more on top. I often ride with my hand in the middle of the bar to steer with one hand. A shorter bar makes the steering forces lighter for this and there is other things to make the bar forces lighter :-) You use a rope slider Geo? A wider spreader and rope helps get the body around more. A waist harness helps as well, you can even have the whole harness slide.

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Re: Bruno is developing an autozenith tube kite

Postby shadylady » Tue Feb 18, 2020 3:49 am

he has the bar held at full power with a stopper.
autozenth idea is to let the bar go and the kite flies to 12.
please show video of kite flying with the bar out.

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Re: Bruno is developing an autozenith tube ki

Postby Trent hink » Tue Feb 18, 2020 4:31 am

Auto-zeinth has one real problem.... If you take the kite out in way too much wind.... The problems with Arcs were well-documented.

I agree that if you get it working correctly it could be really good for kiteboarding, and not only that, really good for using kites in a wide variety of applications.

But it has to be working and safe enough for general use to call it an improvement.

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Re: Bruno is developing an autozenith tube kite

Postby RedSky » Tue Feb 18, 2020 6:19 am

Many years ago I flew a 16m Peter Lynn venom with the Kitecat which is heavy and needs both hands to carry into the water. The auto zenith made it much easier, however, once on the move, you had to keep considerable pressure on the bar to keep it from autozenithing.

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Re: Bruno is developing an autozenith tube kite

Postby foilholio » Tue Feb 18, 2020 6:36 am

shadylady wrote: he has the bar held at full power with a stopper.
autozenth idea is to let the bar go and the kite flies to 12.
please show video of kite flying with the bar out.
I didn't make the video. I do wonder if increased AoA is needed for the effect.
Trent hink wrote: Auto-zeinth has one real problem.... If you take the kite out in way too much wind....
Tea bagging?
Trent hink wrote:The problems with Arcs were well-documented.
Yes but I am not aware of any associated to Autozenith except maybe complaints about having to steer the kite down. To me that is just a different control aspect, which was easy to overcome. If you switch kite types it's weird though.


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