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So I done the deed .
I sold my flysurfer soul 12m today in favour of the Pansh 12m ultralight A15.
Im haven't gone nuts just a practical approach to a kite that costs over 4x cheaper and does the same job.

This was after back to back sessions on a mountain board in the forest 2 gusting 12 knots.
Findings the a15 bar pressure with Jackomixer was only slightly higher.
Both had similar amounts of depower.
A15 was alot faster turning on the same bar.
A15 didn't full out of the sky bow tie like the soul did.
A15 loops alot tighter.You could over sheet so it flicks round without pulling like a train. Soul looped bigger pulling me off the board.
Lastly you have to remember how to sheet out to get the speed and power from the soul (a15 fly's like a tube kite lots of feeling in the bar a complete joy to use)

Good points for the soul the wingtips were more stable (not a problem on the water for the a15 just Gusty rubbish conditions.)
Jumping with the soul was slightly better . The soul is a awesome jumping machine and still a great kite.
The wingtips when the kite collapses ie 0 wind are released slightly earlier on the soul less bridle to get stuck on.
Now im sure the flysurfer has more performance better topend than the a15.
But the a15 is more stable in light wind weighing slightly less and sitting slightly further back in the window.
Anyway this is just a opinion from a av #loyaltothefoil guy. Definitely no expert .

I know at least 5 local riders who bought into the Soul hype but all have since sold them.

slowboat wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:23 pm

I know at least 5 local riders who bought into the Soul hype but all have since sold them.

It was my first foil kite relaunch is great.
Performance is great.
It's a great kite just not £1700 great.
What's the new cappa kite that's mega mega expensive.
Probably all made in similar Chinese factories

Omg S2000, prepare for the wrath!!!!



gg "brands"

Good for you, ride the kite you like. The Soul is not a perfect kite, but it is one of the better foil kites available for most riders. Not sure if I would ever buy a Pansch - have they improved their quality?

slowboat wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:23 pm

I know at least 5 local riders who bought into the Soul hype but all have since sold them.

Same here, overrated. So many better foil kites out there, faster, less bar pressure and performance. Most Soul buyers are first-time foil kite buyers so have no reference to compare and follow the heard. Good for Flysurfer!

BTW the same hype applies to Moses. Good entry-level carbon foils but not the better performing or best value on the market.

Then I would like to hear from you what is The better foilkites and foils?

Congrats on your purchase!

What I do not understand is why Soul users are so defensive about the kite.

The best kite is the one with the best value for YOU.

And not anyone else.

FS fanboys are like Jehovah's Witnesses a group of minority people who believe they have the truth for the rest of the world

downunder wrote: ↑

Thu Apr 02, 2020 3:14 pm

Congrats on your purchase!

What I do not understand is why Soul users are so defensive about the kite.

The best kite is the one with the best value for YOU.

And not anyone else.

Not that easy to tell if something is better or worst for you as it takes time to learn equipment in & out
If someone just bought Soul while only using LEI before and he expect to be blown away first time he flys he must prepare himself for a disappointment. If you just tried foil kite and than just sold it after few session... you must be a compulsive buyer.
Wouldn’t consider foil kite for medium to high wind but between 10-20kts it’s awesome machine